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> TorquoiseB: snipped
> Bingo. You're on a roll today. Some are convinced
> that their subjective experience of Brahman *is*
> Brahman, or that "they" are Brahman while that
> experience is going on. My view is that there is
> a state of attention from which one can experience
> Brahman, but it's still Just Another State Of
> Attention. All states of attention are open to
> interpretation.
> 
> Tom T:
> It is my experience, not my view, that Brahman is
> the point where one
> begins to know that any state of Consciousness is
> available at any
> time just through attention. Until that point one
> doesn't know
> intimately this as a continuum of awareness. One can
> be at any point
> value of consciousness at any time.  Kind of neat
> actually. One then
> gets to go back and integrate all the parts of
> ourselves that had been
> isolated. There is also a 180 degree shift in
> reference point. It
> feels like instead of being in the penthouse looking
> out one is now
> established in the heart and looking in. Poor
> analogy but a real
> change in how things are seen and processed.
> Initially feels like
> there is no center anymore. In computer terms one
> looses the central
> processor and it all shifts to distributed
> processing. In other words
> no processing occurs internally it all occurs out
> there where ever the
> attention falls. Ultimately one kind of gets that
> the inside is now
> the outside and the outside has moved inside.
> ANother poor analogy but
> the best that can be done today. Tom T

Awakening is the "opposite" of waking state in the
sense that in waking state "you" are inside a huge
physical world which is "outside" you. In Realization
the entire world is inside you. It hangs like a basket
in "your" awareness.



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