--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > snip>
> > > > >> There were pranayamas given in Seelisburg that related to 
> the 
> > third
> > > > >> eye. The TM puja refers to the opening of the ajna.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to me the second last (KS) Shiva-suutra is about 
> > saMyama
> > > > > on the aajñaa[=command?]-cakra (from memory: naasikaantar-
> > madhya-
> > > > > saMyamaat kim atra savyaapasavya-sauSamneSu). Perhaps that 
> means
> > > > > that kuNDalinii-yoga -practises are needless when one does 
> > saMyama
> > > > > on "naasika_antar-madhya".
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It's talking about maintaining awareness regardless of what 
> > channel  
> > > > prana is flowing in.
> > > 
> > > Could you elaborate on this....also, where in the puja does it 
> talk 
> > > about the ajna?
> > >
> > 
> > ANd where is it made clear that one spiritual tradition has to 
have 
> a 
> > 1-to-1 correspondance with another for either to be correct? The 
> > history of Sanskrit texts covers literally thousands of years, 
with 
> > multiple meanings for many words for a given text written during 
> one 
> > period that may not be coherent with the meaning intended for 
them 
> > when used in another text written in another era.
> > 
> > And that doesn't mean that MMY's interpretation of things is 
wrong, 
> > regardless of what was meant consciously by one author, since the 
> > point of MMY's interpreation of texts is to promote and explain 
> > enlightment techniques of a certain kind, so if the techniques 
work 
> > and the itnerpreation is valid within the context of the 
techniques 
> > he promotes, the author's conscious intent may not be as big a 
deal 
> > as you appear to be insisting by all this textual exegisis stuff.
> > 
> > IOW, MMY's silence on such things may mean nothing more than he 
> > disagrees with the whole thing, or perhaps with the standard 
> > interpretation of such things. He talks about Marmas which almost 
> no-
> > one does, while generally NOT talking about kundalini or chakras, 
> > which virtually everyone DOES talk about. Does this make him 
wrong 
> > and everyone else right, or is it the other way around or what?
> 
> Hey, that's fine with me, I'm just trying to get some clarity on 
this 
> issue, it does seem to me, these principle are *fundamental* to 
YOGA, 
> how can they possibly be overlooked?  BillyG.
> >
>

How fundamental are they do the yoga that MMY apparently believes in. 
What mention is there of awakening chakras or kundalini in Patanjali, 
very little, if any, IIRC.






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