--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> 
> > Bhakti is that thing that t3rinity thinks that Michael
> > Dean Goodman practices, and that he blasted Irmeli for 
> > attacking when she criticized MDG's logic. The fact that, 
> > AFAIK, neither MDG or Irmeli ever used the word 'bhakti'
> > and almost certainly didn't have bhakti in their minds 
> > when they wrote what they wrote has nothing to do with it. 
> > 
> ****
> There are a few things that intrigue me about t3rinity. Does he
> consciously distort our views just because they irritate him? Or does
> he have some sort of dyslexia and he does not properly understand
> written text?

Neither.
> 
> Or  probably he is not competent in formal operational thinking and
> hence puts together concepts and ideas illogically, forgets what he
> attacked at and claimed in  an earlier post and claims the opposite in
> the next post. His rules of throwing out ideas seem to be that 
> something sounds good, and he has heard someone use the phrase, and it
> seems to make a good striking weapon at the very moment. He has no
> hesitation using ideas this way even if he one post earlier claimed
> opposite. 

See, Irmeli, up until now I haven't heart any real logical argument
from you, but just a series of ad hominems. Do you think that ad
hominems constitute logical arguments? Do you think just calling
something 'distorted', makes up for explaining why you think something
is distorted? Or is it just that putting your opponent down, analysing
him psychologically, and speculating about his private life, makes you
yourself look so much more smart? Or rather not I think.

> And there seems to be an ego in him that gets very easily
> hurt. 

I have an ego, and I can get hurt. But I observe the same thing with
others too. Why this long post of yours, if I didn't touch a nerve
with you? No ego?

> All this points to weak skills in formal operational thinking,
> where principles rule, not the egos needs and hurts.
> 
> He has apparently also found the principles: "attack is the best
> defence" and  " blame others for your own weaknesses" successful
> survival strategies. 
> 
> There he however has made a grave mistake. If he uses these strategies
> also in his personal relationships, he must have faced many
> disappointments on that front. He most probably blames others for the
> disappointments and cannot see how the problems come from his way of
> relating to others. In this kind of situation he can get a lot of
> consolation from cherishing sentiments of bhakti towards a distant
> guru, with whom he cannot be in personal relationship. And that is
> fine, if it helps him.
>  
> I'm sure he gets furious about this. If he does not, and laughs to
> this nonsense, then I certainly have wrong here.
> 
> I don't feel totally comfortable posting this, but here inside me
> resides also a challenger, who thinks, that an effective way of
> confronting certain repeating dysfunctional patterns, is by trying to
> bring  the structures to the open, even if it might cause some
> turmoil. 

And you thought the best way to do so is by ad hominems, basically
calling me names, dysfunctional? Really. Why don't you look at the
real arguments and attend to them?

> I really find t3rinity's way of communicating appalling.

And your ad hominems aren't? What do you think, I should think of your
way of communicating, like this letter, with no substance and wild
psychological speculations? This I think is a bad way to communicate.






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