--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > <babajii_99@> wrote: > > [I wrote:] > > > > > > When the discussion started, the issue was (1). Vaj > > > > had claimed that TMATBMMY required effort. Lawson > > > > and I were disputing that claim. > > > > > > > > Vaj said: > > > > > > > > > I like Asanga's definition of mindfulness which shows how > > > > > appropriate the description is in regards to manasika- japa/TM: > > > > > > > > > > "What is mindfulness? The non-forgetfulness of the mind with > > > > > respect to a familiar object, having the function of non- > > > > > distraction." > > > > > > > > > > In the case of manasika-japa/TM the global > > > > > conditioned 'familiarity' is with the mantra and "non- > > > > > distraction" would refer to the vyuttana or outward, > > > > > distracted tendency of the "outward stroke". Since this so > > > > > precisely and accurately applies, what else need be said? > > > > One gains mindfulness through the practice of TM. > > One gains non-forgetfulness through the practice of TM. > > Exactly. In the context of TM, the quote would apply > as a DEscription, not a PREscription. > > > Experiencing subltle states of the mantra, requires the letting go > > of effort. > > However, this should not be understood to mean > that we make an effort to let go! > > > We don't pound the mantra. We don't mind if the mantra fades > > or slips away. We take it as it comes. > > We don't mind if the mind is off on a thought; when we realize we > > are off on a thought, we quietly come back to the mantra. Just the > > intention to "think" the mantra is enough. We never have to think > > the mantra 'clearly'. > > For the record, my experience is that the realization > that I was off on a thought is enough to evoke the mantra; > there's no intervening intention to think it. >
My own belief is that this is ALWAYS the case, but we may not be aware of it, at least at first, due to our inexperience with subtler states of the thinking process. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
