On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:51 AM, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > Yes,, all the elite golfers in 10 years finally saw through the > > > ridiculous pricing ofcountry clubs and are all flocking to public > > > courses. And Nordstroms is closing in 2016 I hear, all the > elites got > > > wise and started shopping at walmart as they "saw through" the > > > Nordstoms fluff. And the Four Seasons hotel chain is closing in > 2016 > > > its doors. Those savy elites finally got it that they could get > a bed > > > at motel 6 for 1/10 the price. > > > > This is not an analogous comparison: in each of the above instances, > > when you pay more money, you get more. The "elite" know this and > will > > pay more, to get more. They are therefore unlikely to pay more > for TM > > to get less when they can get more--often much more--elsewhere for > > their buck. > > What is the "more" that they get? They all get similar clothing, a > safe bed and shower, and a place to play golf. The extra non-core > attributes, some value some don't. Many elite do value them and will > pay for them.
Finer quality clothing; nicer room with many amenities like internet on your TV with wireless, even butlers at some hotels, several rooms, massage, etc.; nicer greens, top-rate gourmet restuarant, nicer clubhouse, celebs, politicians, etc. > How can you possibly say with certainty that the beyond core > attributes that the TMO, or some org, is able to provide in 10 years > will not have sufficient value to the top 3% of earners that they will > pay for them? It's just my sense from being at around other people of what they want. TM has been "passe" for a while now. Overpriced TM is even more passe. > > > > > But I disagree with your assessment of AOL. Lots of elites I dont > > > think want to sit on the floor in funky facilities and sing > bajans, or > > > go to courses and hug everyone while saying "I belong to you", or > > > sleep in a room with a stranger -- at shared rooms or dorm > room only > > > facilities. > > > > Or the toxic mold of Livingston Manor? It would be interesting to > > know what the occupancy rates are at the Raj--a facility which might > > appeal to some elite who enjoy vacations in Iowa. > > > You and Barry can contine to respond to ghost posts that manifest only > in your minds, but the point I am raising as conjecture is that a > neo-TM in ten years, if properly done, may be attractive to the top > 2-3% of incomes earners. That has nothing to do with toxix mold in > Livingsoton Manor in 2006. I was responding to your comments on "funky facilities". > > Regarding the Raj, I have not been there so Ican't address it. But I > have been to Chopra's Center in La Jolla, and lots of "elites" were > flocking there. And his prices were on par, perhaps higher than the > Raj. And 20 times what the local AV tech was offering 5 miles away in > Pacific Beach, in their garage for the same thing. Exactly--and it is these type of places I would expect to continue to see "elites" go to. > > My point has little to do with the TM brand, and nothing to do with > loyalties to the TM -- I left for the most part, body, heart and soul, > in 1978. But I think that there is an opportunity and need > for SOMEONE, som org, to do IT in a classy, polished that appeals to > the upper strata of society. And clients will be happy to pay a > premium price. Yes, I agree--I just would be amazed if it was the TMO. There already are such facilities (as you pointed out) and some appear to be be doing quite well. Did you happen to catch the 60 Minutes installment on people who go to Thailand and India for surgeries? It's incredible. The same thing is happening with panchakarma. It's very, very reasonable and you receive better care than in the US. > > MMY actually does a lot of things in a classy way -- perhaps too > polished for many of our tastes. But that he or his "team" eventually > are the ones that do IT right within 10 years, I think is possible, > but probably less than 10% probability. That SOMEONE does it right -- > with M. type prices, within 10 years, I think has a greater than 50% > probability. Some of the things are done very well. For example, if anything, I could see elite continuing to use TMO panchakarma mansions if another similar facility does not happen. Some may learn TM while there. The organic farming subscription plan also sounds very promising to me-- and you have a sense this will be done quite well--certainly better than federal standards. I have a colleague whose daughter is raking in 200K a year on her own organic farm, which is rather small, so it could also work--if the movement doesn't fold. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/