markmeredith wrote: > Most every Indian spiritual group I've investigated uses some > of the bija mantras - not necessarily in an eye-closed effortless > meditation practice, but they seem to be very commonly known. > So, it's a common practice all over India - Mr. Perino was mistaken.
> As discussed here recently, early TMers report they weren't given > bij mantras, but "Ram". > Maybe so, but I'm TM meditator #212 in the USA, according to Beaulah Smith, and I never got a 'Ram' bija mantra. From what I've read, the very first TM meditator in India, a certain Mr. Raya, recieved the same bija I recieved in 1965, that would be ten years after the founding of the SRM by Marshy. > Speaking of Nandkisore, I'd always heard the story about how > surprised he was when MMY taught him TM - there was nothing > like it taught within their ashram. > If true, then Nandkisore obviously didn't get around very much - a technique similar to TM was taught at Jyotirmath for years and as you and Vaj have confiremd, the technique and the bija mantras are ubiquitous all over India. Go figure. The mantra you mentioned, 'ram', which isn't even a bija mantra but the name of a deified hero, wasn't listed on Trancenet by John Knapp nor was it mentioned by Mike Doughney on Minit Org's Website. The mantra 'ram' isn't mentioned by Robert Kropinsky either, in his report concerning his visit to the Shankaracharya: "Further, I spoke aloud the sixteen mantras...", (see citation below). You may be mistaken on this - apparently 'ram' has never been used by Marshy as a bija mantra for program. I could be wrong though. From: John Manning Date: Mon, Oct 22 2001 12:00 pm Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental Subject: To BillyG http://tinyurl.com/fq8m5 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
