>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read what I wrote and for your reply.
> Revisiting these concepts in the light of people's experience in this
> group is valuable to me. I remember the TM party line about those
> words. Now I am interested in how people like yourself think about it
> with a broader perspective.
>
> "I think there is a spiritual implication to this, because the clarity
> of awareness does fluctuate."
>
> This is what I am having trouble wrapping my mind around. Can you
> articulate how our awareness fluctuates? I can't locate a reference
> experience for myself these days. I know how I used to describe it to
> someone new to meditation as: "sometimes you feel sleepy and your
> awareness is foggy and that effects your knowledge". I am looking for
> a more developed view of the concept of awareness enhancement.
>
> I think I understand your point about understanding as more stable
> than experience. I can usually remember a perspective even when I am
> tired. I may not be as generative of the perspective when I am tired,
> but I can usually access what I understood in that state when I felt
> more awake. But once I am rested I don't see much difference in my
> awareness day to day.
I can recall only one instance of genuine CC in my life, and that was far beyond any silent
witnessing state which I often have for moments during waking, dreaming and sleeping.
As near as I can recall, there was "nodody home." There were thoughts, conversations,
actions, etc., but no doer or watcher or anything. The transition out of this was quite
sudden and I only had an instant to remark to myself "how odd" before the state was gone.
I've had plenty of witnessing moments/periods before/since but that particular transition
*out of* seems unique, even now.
I can see NO way to access "what I understood in that state" simply because I have no real
recollection of what I "understood" assuming there was an "I" or "understanding" in the
first place.
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