Sorry, I've lost the original intent of this discussion. Suffice it 
to 
> say that in my experience, external proof of anything has not been 
as 
> important a factor as the verification of my own abilities. 
Someone 
> once told me that to rely on external phenomena will drive you 
crazy. 
> Which I tend to agree with.


Me too!  I enjoyed the ride though!  Thanks.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > Jim:
> > 
> > > If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does 
are 
> > > the same thing; indistinguishable. 
> > 
> > Me:  As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I 
also
> > want to point out that "Nature not wanting to demonstrate" 
and "not
> > being able to demonstrate" are identical positions as far as a 
proof
> > system.  That distinction presupposes to much when it comes to 
claims
> > of unique abilities.
> 
> Sorry, I've lost the original intent of this discussion. Suffice 
it to 
> say that in my experience, external proof of anything has not been 
as 
> important a factor as the verification of my own abilities. 
Someone 
> once told me that to rely on external phenomena will drive you 
crazy. 
> Which I tend to agree with.
>






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