Very well said. Have you read Sam Harris' book, "End of Faith," or something like that? He says pretty much the same thing.
And, normally, I don't care if people want to belief preposterous stuff, but lately with people strapping on bombs and blowing themselves up in coffee houses because they believe that 70 virgins will greet them in paradise, it hits a lot closer to home. And that's much worse than a bunch of lemmings who have the delusion that people can fly, but certainly cut from the same non-critical thinking cloth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fact that you are even discussing the impossibility of flying is > the result of a very successful marketing campaign isn't it? Based on > people hopping around, MMY asserted that people would soon fly. Now, > so many years later, for a dwindling group, the hope remains. This is > one of the most fascinating lenses to view people's beliefs. The > question for me is "how could otherwise bright people believe > something so patently absurd?" The answer to that question goes right > to the heart of how humans develop beliefs. It goes to the heart of > what makes us human, and may be the thing that ends up destroying us. > > Right now different groups in the Middle East believe that God gave > them a piece of land. Based on that belief they are killing each > other. How can people believe that hopping is the first stage of > flying, or that God gave their group a piece of land? We all have to > find our own answers don't we? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <bikemaster@> wrote: > > > > Here's the point: > > > > Photographs aside, a critical thinker will ask if there is any > > evidence that anyone has ever levitated. There is not. > > > > No one is going to levitate either, I'm asserting. > > > > It's all more BS from the TMO. Those who believe that levitation is > > happening or will happen are probably those who accept everything > > that "MMY says," without any critical examination. I, for one, think > > it's all crap ... VooDoo TM, was was referenced earlier. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > <jstein@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > > <jstein@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just for the record, since about 1984, the TMO > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > been quite clear that actual flying has not yet > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved, and that all practitioners are doing is > > > > > > > > > > > > hopping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but 1977-1983 were some crazy, mixed-up, wild- > > > ass > > > > > > > > years. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...add dishonesty to the mix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Publishing photos of flyers in the uppermost apex of > > the > > > > > > > > > > hopping parabola is, intentially, deceitful and > > that's > > > > > > > > > > exactly what the TMO did. There's 100+ possible > > points > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the hopping parabola...gee, why pick the one at the > > > apex > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > publicize? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh, Shemp, you need to give this one just a > > > > > > > > > *teeeeeensy* bit more thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlighten me, Judy, why it was NOT dishonest publicizing > > > > > > > > photographs of flyers in the apex of the hopping > > parabola... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think it through, Shemp. Start by explaining the > > > > > > > "deception" involved: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. What would someone assume *incorrectly* if they saw > > > > > > > a photo taken at the apex of the parabola rather than > > > > > > > at a lower point? > > > > > > > > > > > > Gee, I dunno, Judy, that the person was LEVITATING and > > FLOATING > > > > > > in the air maybe????? > > > > > > > > > > BZZZZT. Why would they NOT think that if the photo > > > > > were taken at a lower point of the parabola? > > > > > > > > > > Try again, please. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What would their *correct* assumption be if the hop > > > > > > > were shown at a lower point? > > > > > > > > > > > > Think it through, Judy, and ask yourself who should be doing > > > > > > the assuming: > > > > > > > > > > Non sequitur. > > > > > > > > > > > those promoting and distributing photos of alleged > > > > > > levitation....or...those reading their papers over their > > > > > > morning coffee. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think that the TMO acted morally and honestly back in > > > > > > the '70s when they released those photos? > > > > > > > > > > I'll address that once you've addressed the "point > > > > > on the parabola" issue. > > > > > > > > Every time you can't answer a question or you are befuddled, you > > > > always do the same thing: you say "I'll answer that once you've > > > > addressed my question". > > > > > > Translation: Shemp realizes his bit about the point > > > on the parabola was REEEEEELY dumb. He can't admit > > > that, of course, so he tries to change the subject. > > > That doesn't work, so now he thinks he'll try > > > projecting *his* befuddlement and inability to answer > > > *my* questions onto *me*. > > > > > > I guess he thinks at least some folks here are dumb > > > enough to fall for it. > > > > > > > do me a favor: ignore my posts and don't comment on them > > anymore, > > > > please. > > > > > > Sorry, but I'll continue to comment exactly as I see fit. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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