--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sinhlnx" <sinhlnx@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've
> > concluded
> > > that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't
> be
> > so
> > > misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques.
> Please
> > > set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated
into
> TM
> > > "as taught by MMY".? I know you are a disciple of Norbu
> Rinpoche,
> > but
> > > what technique does he have that equals TM, "Dance of the
Vajra"?
> > > In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the
mantra;
> > and
> > > the use of the mantra is important, but secondary. In regard
to
> > the
> > > mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic;
> but
> > > rather direct experience only.
> > > For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra
by
> an
> > > authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra
> compared
> > to
> > > TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by
> > > representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh,
> > Darshan
> > > Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell. Nope, no power
in
> > those
> > > mantras!. I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru
Maharaji.
> > Far
> > > more power in the TM mantra!.
> > > So what's your comparison test? First, were you initiated by
an
> > > authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of
TM
> > > compare with the mantras of other traditions?
> > > If you weren't initiated into TM ("as taught by MMY"), then
you
> > > aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the "taste test"
> isn't
> > > possible without direct experience.
> > > And who the Hell is Dana?
> >
> > Hi, Excellent detective work sinhlnx!
> >
> > I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been
initiated
> > into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
> >
> > After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern
> > matching, and it is unmistakable. You are correct in asserting
> that
> > Vaj has been saying 'TM' but meaning mantra meditation, **NOT
> TM**.
> >
> > It has been his tiny little 'secret', but after reading your
> words,
> > I had enough clues to know precisely how to look at Vaj to get
the
> > answer, and the answer as said is unmistakable and conclusive--
> Vaj
> > has never learned TM, Practiced TM, or taught TM as taught by
> > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I suspect he will be surprised reading
this!
> >
> > So all of this time, he has been claiming to be speaking about
TM
> as
> > a former practitioner and teacher. Not a good thing at all. Pure
> > arrogance on his part.
> >
> > Oh well, I suppose it was good while it lasted, eh Vaj?>>>
>
>
> I made a post way back, concluding that Vaj had not learned TM.
> It was obvious from his posts. He has learned lots of other
> techniques from the internet though. When he says he has been
> initiated it means he learned something from the internet.
>
> (I also, predicted that Turquoise B was a Wino, a fact he has
> recently confirmed...but he is trying to change that and I wish
him
> well)
>
> OffWorld
>
Turquoise B is *not* a Wino...
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