--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sinhlnx" <sinhlnx@> wrote:
> >
> > ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques).  Vaj, I've 
> concluded
> > that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be 
> so
> > misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques.  
Please
> > set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into 
TM 
> > "as taught by MMY".?  I know you are a disciple of Norbu 
Rinpoche, 
> but
> > what technique does he have that equals TM, "Dance of the Vajra"?
> >   In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the mantra; 
> and
> > the use of the mantra is important, but secondary.  In regard to 
> the
> > mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic; but
> > rather direct experience only.
> >  For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra by 
an
> > authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra 
compared 
> to
> > TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by
> > representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, 
> Darshan
> > Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell.  Nope, no power in 
> those
> > mantras!.  I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru Maharaji.  
> Far
> > more power in the TM mantra!.  
> >  So what's your comparison test?  First, were you initiated by an
> > authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of TM
> > compare with the mantras of other traditions?
> >  If you weren't initiated into TM ("as taught by MMY"), then you
> > aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the "taste test" 
isn't
> > possible without direct experience.
> >   And who the Hell is Dana?
> 
> Hi, Excellent detective work sinhlnx! 
> 
> I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been initiated 
> into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 
> 
> After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern 
> matching, and it is unmistakable. You are correct in asserting that 
> Vaj has been saying 'TM' but meaning mantra meditation, **NOT TM**. 
> 
> It has been his tiny little 'secret', but after reading your words, 
> I had enough clues to know precisely how to look at Vaj to get the 
> answer, and the answer as said is unmistakable and conclusive-- Vaj 
> has never learned TM, Practiced TM, or taught TM as taught by 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I suspect he will be surprised reading this!
> 
> So all of this time, he has been claiming to be speaking about TM 
as 
> a former practitioner and teacher. Not a good thing at all. Pure 
> arrogance on his part.
> 
> Oh well, I suppose it was good while it lasted, eh Vaj?

I thought I recalled he had mentioned his TTC here--
the year and location.  Were you able to check that
out?







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