--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and
> > > tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder
> > > why none of his students/followers got enlightened 
> > 
> > 
> > Er, the only published research on enlightened people is rsearch on
> TMers....
> 
> One of this nice TM stories. Herd (and tolled) them many times. During
> my TTC I learned witch one not to be used any more because they had
> been proven to be not so rightÂ….
> 

Really? When were you on TTC? The first studies on enlightened people are from 
a few 
years ago.



> > and the majority
> > > stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ?
> > 
> > The vast majority of people stop doing most things that they learn
> to do, good or not.
> 
> Nobody stops doing things witch they think are worth wile to be done.

Bull crap.


> 
> >  I
> > > have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
> > > about them:
> > > 
> > > 1.        In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone he 
> > > took
> > > out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 
> 
> > TM is the most fundamental form of devition possible. EVERYTHING is
> sacrificed.
> 
> The first think sacrificed is Truth. TM has nothing to do with devotion. 
> Your not sacrificing anything, you are running away from everything

OK...


>  
> > > 2.        Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds of
> > > monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
> > > (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to use
> > > to group effects.
> > > 
> > 
> > That was MMY's point about why most other forms of meditation really
> do NOT get you 
> > enlightened, despite what some people might claim.
> 
> But he could not clean up his one technique. What a pity! I loved his
> talking (This is mend seriously). 

Clean up his one technique?

>  
> > > TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
> > > emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?
> > 
> > Who told you this? Obviously many people here complain about Judy
> being to caught up in 
> > her emotions, for instance...
> 
> Long term TM meditates experience plus meting a lot of TMers.
>

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