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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> <snip>
> > > He's quite explicit in his Gita commentary that the
> > > enlightened person's actions are what Nature "wants,"
> > > but that the person doesn't necessarily grasp the
> > > *reason* why Nature "wants" him to do or say this or
> > > that; it's just automatic and spontaneous.
> > 
> > Mark David Chapman described his experience of shooting John Lennon 
> > as one where he was watching what he was doing as a separate entity 
> > from himself.
> 
> Pathological dissociation and "witnessing" a la TM
> may sound similar in verbal descriptions but are very
> different things.
>
**END**

I don't feel that's necessarily so.  It's not implausible that certain
individuals have clear experiences of transcendence and witnessing,
but without the philosophical grounding or preparation for what those
experiences are, and consequently their psychology can't handle it. 
If, for some reason, they have some pathology or violent tendencies
then they may act on them.  Certain drugs or drug combinations, or
even acting out behaviors well outside the norms and taboos of society
may serve as the stimulus.

Hannibal Lecter as a force of nature.






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