--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 9:42:04 P.M. Central 
Daylight 
> > > > Time,  
> > > > > > > sparaig@ writes:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  > It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the 
right 
> > to 
> > > > > > decide if  
> > > > > > > > > > they want to carry a child regardless of it's 
sex.
> > > > > > > >  > 
> > > > > > > > > Perhaps, but the social issue is overwhelming the  
> > > > individual 
> > > > > > rights 
> > > > > > > > > in this case. The individual's right to choose  is 
> > > leading 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > exceedingly lopsided male-female ratios that may  
> > > > > > > > > well destroy Chinese and Indian society if left  
> > > > unregulated.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I don't know how the heck you'd regulate it.  Ban
> > > > > > > > the aborting of female fetuses but not male? How
> > > > > > > > long  would it be before you had an imbalance the
> > > > > > > > other  way?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of 
> the  
> > > > fetus. 
> > > > > > Ultrasound 
> > > > > > > while the 
> > > > > > > mom isn't allowed to look, would be OK, as  long as 
the 
> > > doctor 
> > > > > > doesn't reveal 
> > > > > > > the sex.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Why not just ban abortion all together?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Judy thinks that a law banning the use of ultrasound to 
> > > > determine 
> > > > > > the sex of a child is actually workable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Gee.  One of the reasons given by pro-choicers has 
always 
> > been 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > legalizing abortions makes it safe because women are 
going 
> > to 
> > > go 
> > > > > > underground and go to abortionists anyways when it's not 
> > legal.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Judy will have us believe that a society that will have 
> > > > inevitably 
> > > > > > have illegal abortionists if abortion is denied by law 
will 
> > > > somehow 
> > > > > > strictly enforce the banning of ultrasound machines -- a 
> > > > procedure 
> > > > > > that is entirely harmless -- in order to determine the 
sex 
> > of a
> > > > > > baby.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's called "the lesser of two evils," Shemp,
> > > > > in a society that values children of one sex
> > > > > over the other.
> > > > 
> > > > That's not the point, Judy.
> > > > 
> > > > The point I'm making here is that even if you were to codify 
> > > > the banning of ultrasounds for the purpose of determining a 
> > > > fetus's sex, do you honestly think that this would prevent 
its
> > > > widespread use in society?
> > > 
> > > It would certainly *reduce* it.  Abortions can be
> > > done in back alleys with coathangers by unlicensed
> > > practitioners.  You can't do an ultrasound without
> > > an office, an expensive piece of equipment, and
> > > someone trained to run the equipment and interpret
> > > the results.
> > 
> > Not true.
> > 
> > I saw a special on this practise in India where it is very
> > prevalent and in almost all cases the doctor who provided the 
> > service went from village to village with his portable 
ultrasound 
> > equipment.
> 
> OK, so you don't need an office.  What about the
> rest of it?


Like illegal abortions, illegal ultrasound practise would, of 
course, be hard to do.  But I would guess that illegal ultrasound 
would be easier and more ethical to do than illegal abortions.




> 
> 
> > > Of course, you can't stop practitioners from
> > > whispering in their patients' ears.  But if you find
> > > that certain practitioners are aborting a high
> > > percentage of female fetuses after administering an
> > > ultrasound--or even if you found a high percentage
> > > of pregnant women who did not carry the child to
> > > term after an ultrasound (i.e., they went to a back-
> > > alley abortionist)--you could impose sanctions on
> > > the ultrasound practitioners.
> > >
> >
>







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