--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/19/06 6:31:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "Silly red tape" is one of the lies the Republicans > have been pushing during the "debate." Nobody is > tied up in "silly red tape" by the FISA requirements. > The NSA is not inhibited from acting quickly on > incoming phone calls that are a matter of national > security. > > So that argument is a total crock. > > I put that "silly red tape" line in there just for you Spair.
That's me, MDixon, not Lawson. I knew it > would get a rise out of you. Actually the courts will decide > whether it is silly or not. The President and his legal advisors > say there is enough wiggle room in the law that would allow him to > bypass the warrants in time of war and national security. Phone > calls can trickle in and then they can flood in at rate > that it would be necessary to have a judge 24/7 on site. No, the whole point of warrantless wiretapping is so a judge does not HAVE to approve it before the fact. They have 72 hours to make the case for the need for the wiretap. Quite frankly while > you obviously don't trust Bush to be tapping only terrorist threats, I > personally don't trust a lot of federal judges and their sense of judgement. Only a tiny handful of requests have been turned down by the FISA judges, out of the hundreds (thousands, probably) that have been made. And in the case of an urgent request, that would be 72 hours after the wiretapping had begun. If they can't demonstrate that there's good reason to suspect the folks they're wiretapping have terrorist connections after 72 hours of wiretapping, chances are excellent there isn't any. We > constantly see judges letting criminals off the hook that go out and kill > somebody later. Do you really want a federal judge to determine whether Abdul > Hafsomjammi calling from Teheran is not a threat or not thus not allowing the > NSA to tape his conversation or intercept more of his calls? Again, this has almost never happened. Remember, the judges who give the approval are members of the FISA court, not just any old federal judges. They were appointed to the FISA court specifically for the purpose of approving wiretaps; they have expertise in just that area. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
