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>In a message dated 8/20/06 9:07:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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>In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>>MD, you recount these extreme measures  by past presidents 
>>as if they were all justified. I'm not ready to  assume they 
>>were. For example, I've encountered many citations of  
>>Lincoln suspending writs of habeas corpus, but not one 
>> citation has ever said, "And history proves he was 
>>correct to do so."  Same with FDR's internment of 
>>Japanese Americans.
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>>If  history teaches me anything from the above 
>>examples, it's that  presidents take reprehensible 
>>actions under stress.
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>>And you know what? What Bush is doing is far less invasive  than
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>anything any 
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>>of these other presidents did and having far  greater success in 
>>accomplishing the goals. If you read the poll from  the Washington
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>>that even 65% thought it was  necessary even if it violated privacy.
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>Only about 
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>>30% or less  opposed it. These are the hard core Bush haters that 
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>don't trust 
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>> him on any account and are just looking for something to complain
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>about. If  
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>>Bush had a judge reviewing every wire tap as they came in, on  the
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>spot those 
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>>same people would be complaining and demanding to  know if it was a
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>Bush 
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>>appointee or a good liberal judge that will  play politics with the 
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>program and be 
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>>a thorn in the  side.
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>I thought FDR monitored EVERY transatlantic communication  (via the
>atlantic cable) unknown to the public of the time.  
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>JohnY
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>Every democratic president did things that had a republican president done  
>them would make  today's liberals scream. Yet FDR , JFK, Jimmy Carter and  
>Bill 
>Clinton are gods who could do no wrong. I guarantee you had FDR been a  
>republican that interred Japanese during WW2 there would be a current movement 
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>erase his name from history after demonizing it for a couple of  generations. 
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At their worst FDR, JFK, Carter and Clinton were far better than the 
joke that's in the White House.



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