--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> It's hard finding someone who has kept themselves 
> far enough away from the TMO to still be willing 
> to defend it.
> 
> About the only people left who have managed that 
> are the long-term meditators who carefully never 
> went to TTC and never got involved with the movement. 
> They wisely did this *so that* they could preserve 
> their illusions about Maharishi, enlightenment, and
> the TMO. It also helps to have never met Maharishi 
> or been in the same room with him.
> 
> But lately even this is not enough, because even
> though these folks have tried their best never to
> hear anything that disturbs their fantasies, they've
> heard enough that even they don't claim to support
> the TMO and Maharishi any more. In fact, when called
> TM TBs, they become irate and attack the person who
> called them that.

[Somehow I suspect Barry's referring to me here.
Not sure why he's so afraid to utter my name.]

Barry, as I've said a number of times here, is
a liar.

Just how "recently" would that be, Barry?  As
"recently" as 11 years ago?

A small selection of quotes from my posts to
alt.m.t:

[March 3, 1995]
Let me put it plainly:  I think the movement *sucks*.

[Me, July 16, 1997]
I'd be the last to contest the notion that the
movement *per se* sucks big-time and often makes
incredibly stupid decisions. 

[November 18, 1997]
The organization sucks.  So what else is new?

[November 26, 1997]
Speaking for myself, the red flags were raised
long ago with regard to movement abuses.  The movement,
as I've said here many times, sucks.

[April 1, 1998]
To sum up those reservations in one phrase (which
I've used often here), the organization *sucks*. 

[October 31, 1998]
In my opinion, the true nature of the TM organization
is that it sucks big-time.

Barry was present on alt.m.t and participating
in many if not all the discussions from which
these quotes were taken.

And just to drive the point home, from a post of
mine to Barry on FFL from July of this year:

"Ah, but I don't care about the movement. I think
it sucks, as I've said many, many times."

So there's no question about it, Barry knows what
I think of the movement and has known for many
years.  He is lying through his teeth above.

(He also knows I've made many other criticisms of
the TMO and MMY here, but unfortunately the Advanced
Search is broken, so I can't quote them.)

As to his oft-repeated canard that I never took
TTC because I wanted to "preserve [my] illusions,"
in fact I didn't take TTC because I *had no illusions*
about the movement and didn't want to get so heavily
involved with an organization I thought sucked.






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