--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she > > > needs is a long program! She needs to place her > > > attention 100% in the relative and not drift off > > into > > > some mental laya. Exercise, activity that fully > > > engages her mind and FOOD. > > > > > Who said she was ever psychotic? > > I can almost (almost) assure you that she has/had > symptoms of psychosis, the most common psychological > disorder from too much TM and TM-siddhis program.
Especially in people who have just lost their spouse, right? In > fact all the cases of "madness" from TM that I know > about are experiences of psychosis. Also, you only get > commited for psychotic symtoms. Definition of Psychosis Psychosis: In the general sense, a mental illness that markedly interferes with a person's capacity to meet life's everyday demands. In a specific sense, it refers to a thought disorder in which reality testing is grossly impaired. Symptoms can include seeing, hearing, smelling, or tasting things that are not there; paranoia; and delusional thoughts. Depending on the condition underlying the psychotic symptoms, symptoms may be constant or they may come and go. Psychosis can occur as a result of brain injury or disease, and is seen particularly in schizophrenia and bipolar disorders....Diagnosis is by observation and interview. http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=5110 > These can accompany > severe mood disorders, but I doubt Debbie had that > diagnosis. You don't think she could have been clinically depressed? Would a suicide attempt be enough to have someone committed? Also, when someone is committed, as I understand it, it's because they aren't willing or able to sign themselves into the hospital. The original quote from Rick Ross's board says her parents "had her admitted," not "committed." That may be simply imprecise use of terminology; or it may reflect that her parents convinced (or pressured) her to sign herself in. It's possible she was clear-headed enough (if she were seriously depressed, say) to recognize that her parents were right and that she needed to be hospitalized (in which case she would not have had to have been psychotic per se). Because her parents apparently played a major role, we're assuming they went through the full-dress legal procedure and therefore that she must have been psychotic. But that's on the basis of an at least second-hand informal report, something the person says she was told (no source mentioned). The last three sentences of that post give a pretty clear idea of this person's agenda: "The Inside TM-myth about Debbie's condition, 'Doug and Debbie were soul mates. They were totally connected as one soul in two bodies. When Doug died, Debbie no longer had a purpose for living' "In reality, IMHO, once the guru got the bucks.. he had no further use for her. "The individuality was erroded [sic] so slowly & insidiously. The highly honored devotees at the top (of any cultic group) totally surrendered their sense of self to the leader.." It certainly sounds as though the "Inside TM-myth" is that Debbie was depressed, as I suggested. (I suspect that if she "surrendered her sense of self" to anybody, it was to Henning himself.) In any case, I wouldn't put it past this person to try to make it sound as though her illness were *so* bad her parents had to commit her, without actually using the term "committed." This person may have no idea of the circumstances, and hence neither do we. What th f*ck is she doing on a long > program? She's going to relapse again if someone > doesn't know what they are doing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
