--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rama krishna
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> >    -"A wise man should avoid married life as if it
> were a burning 
> pit of live coals. From the contact comes sensation,
> from sensation 
> thirst, from thirst clinging, by ceasing from that,
> the soul is 
> delivered from all sinful existence." 
> >   - Lord Buddha 
> <snip>
> 
> Sorry, but this is just complete bullsh*t, and I'd
> bet my life 
> Buddha never said this. I guess the first thing that
> comes to mind 
> is why sensation leads to thirst. Sure it does if
> the Self is not 
> realized and someone is lost in the play of the
> senses. (But even if 
> they are, how will they develop a desire to
> transcend that if they 
> don't experience it?) 
> 
> How weak would someone be that the only way they
> could avoid 
> attachment would be to avoid sensation. The whole
> thing is so 
> perverted. What do we do, go through life wrapped up
> like mummies, 
> or encased like fetuses? A rediculous, immature and
> poorly thought 
> out quotation from someone who hadn't a clue about
> Buddha's teaching.
> 
> The other thing that occurs to me when reading all
> these high-minded 
> quotations about celibacy, is Who Makes The Babies?
> All the 
> supposedly lowly ignorant folk? And if this is so,
> what do you think 
> their kids would be like?
> 
> Stupid stuff. Maybe for monks, but nothing of value
> here for worldly 
> folk. Only adds to sexual repression and confusion,
> and um, seems 
> like there's enough of that to go around already. No
> more 
> puritanical ideas, please.

Great post, Jim. Ramana Maharishi also points to the
absurdity of attempting to end bondage by avoiding
sensory experiences.




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