--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > > > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <drpetersutphen@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for this post, Tom. There were too many posts
> > > > > > > > implying Gangaji was some sort of fraud. She is one
> > > > > > > > powerful woman. Some people repond to an advaitic
> > > > > > > > teacher and others just get confused.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know if you were directing that comment at me, but I
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > imply that Gangaji is a fraud. I simply posted my reaction
> to
> > > her.
> > > > > > > And, being more toward the Tantric end of the spectrum, I
> > > regard
> > > > > > > advaitic dismissal of the relative as a tedious exercise in
> > > > > denial. If
> > > > > > > the relative is such worthless illusory crap, then why not
> > > just
> > > > > throw
> > > > > > > the worthless illusory human body in front of an illusory
> > > freight
> > > > > train?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because its an illusory act of compassion to avoid having an
> > > > > illusory
> > > > > > someone having to clean up all the illusory blood and gore.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dismissal of the relative" isn't Advaitic anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Yes. Its sort of like concluding that people who realize that
> films
> > > > are an illusion, are people who don't like films.
> > >
> > > But the point MMY makes--and I've heard other
> > > teachers make it, so it's not just him--is not
> > > that the relative is an illusion; rather, the
> > > illusion is that the relative isn't Brahman.
> > >
> > > Your analogy works nicely either way, though.
> >
> > The words I often heard hims say is -- relative = maya: paraphrasing
> > -- maya is that which is not. Its not that maya is an illusion, its
> > not what it appears.
> >
> > Snake is really a rope.
> >
> > And/or -- parallel to greeks -- Hericlitus? -- its ever changing. It
> > has no permanence. Its here today, gone tomorrow. How can one give
> > that the status of "real".
> >
> 
> Kashmir Shiavism - how can anything unreal come from the real?
>

It never came?

But was a beautiful, adorable reflection from the "bending /
streching" created by the real each morning when it gets up. :)








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