--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > A quick look at the grimes chart. USA has cancer ascendant. Thus, 
> if 
> > jyotish actually does provide  karmic maps, timing mechansims and
> > cosmic clocks, if it has some validity, >>
> 
> 
> Ok, I admire and enjoy your attempt to do this interpretation. More 
> power to you, but, lets get one thing straight as we go through 
> this. JYOTISH DOESN'T WORK.  !
> 
> Jyotish is total BS, even by an expert Jyotishi. Jyotish is as 
> accurate as a pair of dice in an honest casino (oxymoron of course --
>  "honest casino").

As I caveated my piece: 
" Thus, if  jyotish actually does provide karmic maps, timing
mechansims and > cosmic clocks, if it has some validity, " -- I am
fully open to it not doing so. I give it less than a 10% chance.

I am neither a believer nor non-believer. Like the ME, on the surface
it sounds like total quackery. But I have seen enough antecdotal
evidence of each to not be able to close the door on either jyotish or
ME. 

At a minimum,  its a good mental exercise. Like a crossworld puzzle,
it may not have significance beyond the "puzzle" but it streched mind
in new ways -- linking new synapes IMO.

Oddly, I find the most vocal critics of jyotish often have absolutely
no working knowledge of it, have never run a chart, have never done
any analysis. Such persons are quite fools IMO. Its one thing for
someone who knows how to do basic jyotish and who has run sytematic
tests to critique it. Its quite another for someone totally ignorant
of its "mechanics" to voice strong opinions. But for some, that is a
strong theme in their lives -- strong opinions about things they know
nothing about. I am sure this does not apply to you off -- thus I
await your learned criticism of jyotish. (you can delete the
expletives before hand)


> I ALWAYS respond to Jyotish predictions on FFL and elsewhere in this 
> same way, and statistically, so far, I have been 100% correct about 
> the useless predictable "science" of Jyotish. (the last one was some 
> Ramaganja guy that predicted dire things around Oct. 29th)  

He predicted it for individuals. And oddly, while I sort of blew that
prediction off, when I looked at my chart and those transits, and the
houses effected, I did experience quite out of the norm things related
to those houses 28-30th. I posted my experiences earlier on that.  

And since EXACTLY the 28th, the S&P 500 and Dow have been going down
-- after a 10 week 12% run up (coincidetnly since the very day the IA
course began).

 
>  Ironically I am more of a defender of TM and Mahahishi's Sidhi's 
> than many here, and many of those same TM-ex people seem to cling to 
> Jyotish like it was mammie's tetons. It does not work. It never 
> will. 

I am not clinging to anything. Its an amusing mental exercise to me,
for which I find some interesting antecdotal support in charts i do.

>It is useless.

For you I am sure it is.

> Maharishi once said that "the true value of Jyotish is on the Ritam 
> Bhara Pragya level of consiousness". ie. "the level that knows only 
> truth". In other words cognition/prediction. Here is what my 
> cognition is telling me right now: The Dems might win, but no matter 
> what happens...Dick Cheney will not give up his hold on the secret 
> service and men in black, and will attempt to destroy democracy 
> forever. 

Of course this election does not affect Cheny and Bush and their
protection form the secret service for the next two years. i would 
check the oil in your ritam valve if I were you.






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