You should try having yajnas done before talking. One feels the buzz and happiness of nature. Inside. Yajnas feel good, and sometimes parts of oneself come back, parts one lost due to age and being overwhelmed by the environment. I recommend them to everyone, and for the small fee, I feel sorry for those who refuse these extra means for making merit. I mean, to have the means and eschew or worse abhor them is dumb. On the other hand, we pay all our debts eventually one way or another. But maybe one can get out of debt?
----- Original Message ----- From: "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mechanics of Yagyas > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <llundrub@> wrote: >> > >> > So I know yagyas are the way of heyam dukam anagatam etc, >> > but what are the mechanics exactly? >> > . . . >> >> Me, I suspect that yagyas work now the way they >> always have -- they're a revenue generator for the >> people and organizations that offer them, and any >> benefits occur through the mechanism of the placebo >> effect. >> >> But there is a simple, scientific way to find out >> if there is anything else going on with them. Offer >> to perform a study tracking the effects of various >> yagyas, as long as the pundits perform the yagyas >> for free. We'll tell them that's a testing protocol, >> so that the test subjects for whom the yagyas are >> performed have no more invested in the outcome >> than the control group does. But the real reason >> is to see if any of them will do it for free. If >> they won't, that'll pretty much clear up once and >> for all what yagyas are all about, right? :-) > > Obviously, I betray my strong feelings about such > things above. :-) To me, yagyas fall into the category > of religious experience called "the intercession of > the priest class," otherwise known as the Beam Me Up > Scotty Theory of Getting Things Done. > > They've been a fixture of most religions in most > eras of human spirituality. Whether it be the Roman > Church charging for "indulgences" and promising the > faithful results or a Vedic or Hindu pundit charging > for a yagya and promising the faithful results, the > bottom line seems to me to be the same. Those who pay > do so because they have been convinced to have faith > in a priest class who perform the rituals, who, because > of how "special" they are (or the "special" knowledge > they have attained), have the ability to "intercede" > for them with God or the gods or the Laws Of Nature > or whatever and Get Things Done. > > Doesn't float my boat. I'm more of a fan of spiritual > traditions where there is no priest class of any kind > in between the seeker and that which he seeks. Almost > every time in history such pay-for-pray practices have > arisen, they have been viewed in retrospect by religious > historians as the product of a spiritual tradition that > is *in decline*. > > They also often generate alternative or "counter" > spiritual movements. Catharism was an alternative to > the Roman Church; they had no priest class, and the > closest thing they had to one worked for a living > like everyone else and were forbidden to charge for > any services. Buddhism had its doctrinal differences > from Hinduism, but was also strongly against the > existing Hindu structure, which was based on nickle- > and-diming the faithful into the poorhouse. Both were > persecuted by priests whose incomes were threatened. > > The world of religion is already weird enough with > all of the odd practices people perform themselves > in the name of communicating with God or the infinite or > whatever. Paying someone else to communicate *for you* > seems to me to be like believing that you have to hire > someone to go to the phone company for you so you can > get a phone. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
