--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > > Conquering this 'foe' therefore is the first step in spiritual
> > > progress and is referred to as 'Yama'...or brahamacharya 
> > (celibacy) in
> > > Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga.
> > >
> > The question is when on our journey do we confront the 'dweller 
on 
> > the threshold'? 
> 
> We don't. That's for other traditions of warriors. We are not on 
that 
> path. We simply transcend that and comes out in the other end, 
> transformed.
> 
> Where is the starting point from which to measure 
>  our First Step in spiritual progress?
> 
> When you felt some rest after meditation. Nothing flashy, simple. 
> That's when the fun begins :-)
>
It can be seen that way also, anmd I appreciate your emphasis on the 
effortlessness of it all. I was responding specifically to Mr. 
Magoo's statement about the state of brahmacharya and what my (im)
personal experience has been. Your expression is probably more 
accurate overall though.

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