I experience nothing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Here below are the results of the survey. First are the statements
> from those who had some experience in TM that indicated to them in
> some way the existence of higher states of consciousness. Then below
> that, the over-whelming majority who indicated they never had any
> higher level experiences.
>
> Experiences of higher states of consciousness:
>
> Bhairitu "Sure, I had good experiences from TM. I began experiencing
> what MMY likes to call CC about a year and a half after starting
> TM." (snip scroll down to see his other meditation experiences
> alternative explanation)
>
> Authfriend wrote:
> "it's a matter of gradually, steadily, and continuously increasing
> transparency, in both meditation and activity. Impossible to say
> what the endpoint might be, or whether there would even be an
> endpoint."
>
> Patrick Gillam:
> "Once during TM, early in my practice, I had a tenth-of-a-second
> flash of everything making sense. It was a hypercondensation of that
> good feeling you get when you find something out, or figure
> something out. I had heard such experiences described as "aha"
> experiences, but mine was too short for that. It was just an "ah!"
> experience."
>
> Shukra 69
> "Pretty much always have a good experience when I do 5-10 minutes of
> pranayama first. My experience of Tm is like the description of CC
> much of the time now. Had experiences of enormous bliss/good
> kundalini experiences in the past but not recently. Likewise CC in
> activity. Witnessing sleep several hours a night. Had a Diety vision
> like a found murti that I heard described recently, after I saw it
> in TM, you can say it is some kind of self suggestion I'm sure. M.D.
> said I am in good health -for someone 20 years younger!"
>
> OffWorld
> "I am in a subtle state of bliss maybe 40-50% of the time. I have
> had many clear experiences of pure consciousness many times a week
> outside of TM, and GC. I often experience bliss during sleep for
> many hours, and great waves and zones of power, and am often
> surprised when I wake up in the morning feeling unenlightened (oh
> well...some experience is good enough)."
>
>
> Many did not answer the survey, which deduction leads one of
> following:
>
> 1. They never had any good experience from TM, and did not
> experience higher states of consciousness or glimpses of that.
>
> 2. They couldn't be bothered answering, and that leads to the
> rational deduction that they did not have any experience of worthy
> note in TM.
>
> An overwhelming number of people in their statement of silence on
> the matter, thereby can be reasonably concluded to not have gained
> any experience of higher states of consciousness through the
> practice. (if you wish to counter or add to this deduction using
> rational procedures, then please do so)
>
> The following are a number of people who thereby indicated that they
> never had any experience of higher states of consciousness:
>
> MDixon.
> New.morning
> dhamiltony2k5
> drpetersutphen
> Vaj
> Rick_Archer
> TurquoiseB
> handsonmaui
> curtisdeltablues
> lurkernomore...
> Sal Sunshine
> Richard J. Williams
> J_alexander_...
> BillyG.
> cardemaister
> bob_brigante
> t3rinity
>
>
> In addition Bhairitu made this observation to his above statement:
> " But here's the catch, I had already been practicing different
> mantra techniques before TM and on my first try at meditating a good
> 3 1/2 years before TM the kudalini rose to the crown chakra. TM was
> a stable "official" technique I decided to try in 1973. Of course
> now I practice advanced tantric techniques. In tantra we don't
> have "levels." There is just the experience of what would in
> TM "pure consciousness" which grows in intensity with practice. I
> think that delineating levels is a problem for many TM practitioners
> and if anything makes people push the carrot farther out when they
> may have already swallowed it." Bhairitu
>
> OffWorld's thoughts on this :
> I have experienced Kundalini and many TM'rs I know have also. It can
> be very powerful. Regarding Kundalini experience in TM, Maharishi
> said (paraphrasing): "It rises, it falls, not something to put
> attention on"
>
> Regarding the `levels', it can be a problem for some if they are
> experiencing "GC" and not aware of what is happening, they could get
> distracted by it. GC is very blissful love. And if a person is not
> instructed intellectually about UC, then the experience may not get
> cemented. But your Tantra practice sounds like you like it so good,
> enjoy.
>
>
>
> SURVEY COMPLETED by Off_World_Beings
>
