--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I'm wondering what value Charlie Lutes tapes have for most of us > > here. > > > > I think just about everyone has posted something negative about > > his prognostications -- my contribution was that I personally > > heard him predict that in a couple years (1974 at the time) there > > would be a "finding of the space ship Jesus used to come to earth > > parked inside the pyramid." When I personally asked him about > > this prediction a decade later, he denied ever saying it. > > [snip] > > I knew Charlie personally for 20 years. You're lying that he made > such a claim about Jesus in a spaceship.
Hell hath no fury like someone who's been taken in by a charlatan for 20 years. :-) I'm just going to sit back and enjoy Edg taking John to the cleaners over this one. Unlike him, I can't claim to be omniscient about what Edg heard and didn't hear. :-) What I can be more than a little certain about is Charlie's tendency to lie with a straight face. There was a time when International Staff was getting reports of odd things he was reported to be saying in his Friday night meetings -- stuff about space aliens and Jesus reappearing, etc. So the Regional Office assigned me to go to a few of his talks to find out. I did, because Charlie's on a Friday night was the best pickup spot in town. :-) Charlie talked a blue streak in those meetings, about all sorts of stuff that was clearly "off the program," and worse, he *never made a distinction between what was stuff he read in books or made up himself and what Maharishi taught*. He just lumped it all together, so the people in the audience were left with the impression that it all came from Maharishi. I reported back what I had heard, and even gave them tape recordings I had made on my little mini- recorder. When asked a little later by one of the Regional Coordinators whether he'd said these things, Charlie denied ever having said a word of it. Where- upon the RC played Charlie the tape. Charlie supposedly (I wasn't there at the time, thank god, or I'd prob- ably still have an astral Charlie on my ass from beyond the grave) stormed out of the room red-faced. Did Charlie Lutes lie? Like a rug. But then so do most human beings, especially those who lie to themselves a lot. I now leave John in the loving hands of Edg, whom he has called a liar. May John R.I.P. :-)