Actually Elizabeth, I am perfect but being perfect I don't want to make
everyone else feel diminished so I hide it... perfectly.

::cough::

And yes, I think this thread has reach the point that being sensible
achieves nothing more ;-)


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Elizabeth <[email protected]> wrote:

> As much as we would like it to be the case, none of us are perfect.
> Before you criticise Mr Feist perhaps you should look at your own writing
> style / grammar, which is less than stellar.****
>
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>
> No one has “earned the right” to be critical unless and until, they are
> perfect themselves. Last time I checked that was …………….. well no one. ****
>
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>
> I appreciate a creative experience (painting / book/ concert or person) as
> much for the inherent flaws as the “perfect” parts.****
>
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>
> Can’t you just enjoy the ride, appreciating the bumpy bits as well as the
> smooth?****
>
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>
> By the way I am on the top of the not perfect pile. My grammar and syntax
> suck!****
>
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>
> I am willing to concede that I may be a touch biased as I work in a
> Library and become pissed beyond all reason by individuals who take it upon
> themselves to “edit” a published book.****
>
> Elizabeth****
>
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *StephenB
> *Sent:* Saturday, 11 May 2013 5:44 PM
> *To:* feistfans-l
> *Subject:* Re: Picked up my copy of Magicians End****
>
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>
> Ray has explained – as much as he can – the publishing process. You’ve
> simplified it to a point of irrelevance. Its far more convoluted and
> involved than even the author can control, and as Ray has mentioned here
> numerous times since ACI, in many cases the author really isn’t in the loop
> at all!****
>
>  ****
>
> While most here will appreciate your point, it has been done to death, and
> pretty much not shared.****
>
>  ****
>
> As for Neil Diamond – you paid to see an old man sing! What did you expect
> a 60s/70s album quality rendition of ‘Love on the Rocks’!****
>
>  ****
>
> Because you have paid for the book it does not ‘give you the right to be
> critical’. That’s just arrogant. ****
>
>  ****
>
> S ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Mark Pulsipher <[email protected]> ****
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:31 AM****
>
> *To:* feistfans-l <[email protected]> ****
>
> *Subject:* Re: Was: Picked up my copy of Magicians End****
>
>  ****
>
> Sorry, guys. I hold to my assertion. Sure, HC can shoulder some of the
> blame for their proofreading, but in the end, there is one name on the
> cover in big letters. If my name was the big thing married to a document or
> some peice of work, I would take it upon myself to make sure my name was
> only associated with the best product possible. Is it too much to ask to
> have people own their s**t and care about what is being sold to us?****
>
> I write this as a fan, and as a fan I have been made to expect a certain
> level of excellence. This time the bar dropped too far and we need to be
> realistic. It is not my fault there are gross errors and to say I am 'not
> doing it right' is ridiculous. I am a reader, and I do it at a high level.
> I have an will continue to do it right.****
>
> I had the chance to see Neil Diamond in concert a couple of years ago. I
> am young enough to have never had the chance to see him when he was at his
> prime, but when this tour happened, I just had to take the opportunity..
> come on, this is Neil Diamond! I was so excited, and then the show began.
> He is too old, too tired, and his voice is shot. He could not sing, could
> not keep up with the tempo and talked through most of his lyrics. I was
> severely disappointed. But then I saw everyone else around me jumping
> around and singing along, just so happy to hear Neil Diamond singing (of
> course, being hella-drunk likely helped their disposition). I was, however,
> the one guy who could not enjoy the show, because I know what this guy has
> been capable of. I paid an armload of cash and got a really crappy show. I
> cannot sit through garbage simply because someone of a legendary history is
> the one shoveling it out. We are paying for this, we have a right to expect
> more.****
>
> I understand if you want to spend the money and it does not matter to you,
> that is your right. But I also have the right to say this is just not good
> enough. I have a grip of books on my shelf with Ray's picture inside the
> dust jacket. I have earned the right to be critical. Praise where it is
> deserved, jeers where it is needed.****
>
> You will never win me over by telling me it is too expensive to do it
> right.****
>
>  ****
>
> On another note, I would like to say that nothing in my opinion will ever
> compare to what he produced with The King's Buccaneer, truly a book that
> inspired me.****
>
>  ****
>
> Ray, with all due respect, I assume you at least must see I have a valid
> point.****
>
> M
>
> --- On *Fri, 5/10/13, John <[email protected]>* wrote:****
>
>
> From: John <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Was: Picked up my copy of Magicians End
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 11:11 PM****
>
> [email protected]<http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>writes
> >
> > I have to agree with Chris on this, typos would not and have not stopped
> me from buying or reading any book. As with ACI, I voiced  my concern over
> the typos to Ray, BUT I still read it and loved it!  My grip is really with
> Harper Collins because its their job to produce a flawless product. You can
> tell most typos in ACI are "auto-correct" typos and that if someone had
> read it afterwards would have been found. I mean we all found them and
> we're not the professional editors as they are.
> >
>
> Part of the issue from my point of view is cost.
>
> A simple example
> Magician 1982 @$20
> Magician's End 2013 @$30
> That is only a 50% increase
>
> Now using actual inflation rates @141%  Magician's End should be @$50
>
> So the $20 saving has to be made somewhere To read a book thoroughly it
> can take a person a week, and still no guarantee they won't miss something.
> In fact most costs have increased , the only thing going down is the price
> of the book
>
> For the UK Magician was originally @10GBP Magicians End should be nearer
> 32GBP.
>
> Remember paying someone to read a book is not the only cost. They need
> office space and other items. A person earning 10 can be charged out at
> over 200 and that may just be a lowly employee.
>
> -- John
>
> The Official Raymond E Feist Website
> http://www.crydee.com/
>
> Books to read, and shelves to fill,
> Ray's great books, just fit the bill.
>
>
>
>
> ****
>
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