This is a good way to administer Nutrical, if it hasn't been suggested
already!  It's a high-calorie gel that comes in a tube (can also be
found at Petsmart, etc.)...just put some on your finger and scrape
against the roof of kitty's mouth...I've also put some on paws so that
they're forced to lick it off...but you can't put too much as cat's have
a tendency to want to shake it off before they lick it off...I've got
splatterings of Nutrical all over the kitchen!


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"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
George

----- Original Message -----
From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:13 am
Subject: RE: Lisa

> Hi, Lisa, are you using syringe?  I have one cat, Leo who just 
> hated to
> be fed with syringe and everthing could come out from his mouth ---
> 
> My vet also told me a different way of feeding with your finger - you
> take a pallatble food like baby food or cannned food, and put some on
> the tip of your pointing finger . you put the food side up (the 
> oppositeside of where your nail is), and put it into his mouth -- 
> rub against
> the top of his palate - 
> 
> How is he doing today?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
> PazSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Hideyo
> 
> 
> Thank you for your kind words, I will keep trying.  It just that he 
> struggles so much that I worry about getting him all stressed out.  He
> does 
> put up one heck of a struggle.  His head is so strong and it moves 
> so 
> quickly.
> 
> But I will keep trying.  He was so ill  in 03 that we did not think he
> would 
> make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and chubby. 
> butthis 
> is so different with the food.  I can easily give him his pills, but
> this 
> food stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up.
> 
> Thank You for support.
> Lisa
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From:  <i>&quot;Hideyo Yamamoto&quot; 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:  
> <i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>To:  
> <i><felvtalk@felineleukemia.org&gt;</i><br>Subject:  <i>RE: Won't 
> Eat....Please Help</i><br>Date:  <i>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06 
> -0600</i><br>&gt;Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive,
> Ginger 
> stopped<br>&gt;eating for over a week a several months 
> ago.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;She is already a very small girl, and did not want
> her 
> to lose any more<br>&gt;weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted 
> her to
> eat 
> with syringe every<br>&gt;day with baby food and liver shake 
> -<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back 
> very
> soon - so stay<br>&gt;calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and 
> talkto 
> him gently and<br>&gt;tell him how much he means to you and how he is
> going 
> to get better very<br>&gt;very soon..<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Love and hugs to
> you 
> and your kitty..<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Hideyo<br>&gt;<br>&gt;-----Original 
> Message-----<br>&gt;From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>&gt;[mailto:Felvtalk-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Nina<br>&gt;Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55
> PM<br>&gt;To: 
> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>&gt;Subject: Re: Won't Eat....Please 
> Help<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Hi Lisa,<br>&gt;I can hear the panic in your voice
> and 
> how very much you love your<br>&gt;Kitty.  You are right, you need to
> get 
> him to eat.   It is wonderful<br>&gt;that he has been so healthy 
> and has
> a 
> few extra pounds to help him<br>&gt;maintain right now.  He is in 
> dangerof 
> HL if he goes without eating<br>&gt;anything in a 24 to 48 hour 
> period.
> That means if you get something<br>&gt;down him, he'll probably be 
> okay.I 
> know the sound of &quot;syringe<br>&gt;feeding&quot; can be
> intimidating.  
> Don't think of it as &quot;force&quot; feeding,<br>&gt;think of it 
> as 
> &quot;assisted&quot; feeding.  Like you would a baby.  There is 
> a<br>&gt;group for help with this, here's the 
> link:<br>&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-
> Feeding/<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Poor 
> thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble
> like<br>&gt;that.  
> Not to mention the vet trip from Hell.   All he's going to
> want<br>&gt;to do 
> is hide.  Please try to calm yourself.  Put on some soft music 
> and<br>&gt;<br>&gt;keep the room he's in dark.  If he wants to 
> hide, go 
> ahead and let him,<br>&gt;(after you get his meds and some food in him
> of 
> course).  Speak softly<br>&gt;to him and tell him how the two of you
> will 
> see this through together.<br>&gt;Tell him you will do your very 
> best to
> 
> make sure no one scares him, or<br>&gt;puts him through any more 
> traumathan 
> absolutely necessary.  (I'd like<br>&gt;to punch your substitute 
> vet in
> the 
> neck btw).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let
> us 
> know how you guys 
> are<br>&gt;doing,<br>&gt;Nina<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Elizabeth Paz 
> wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi everyone,<br>&gt;
> &gt;<br>&gt; 
> &gt; Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my
> kitty?<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick 
> kitty and
> we 
> were a<br>&gt; &gt; breath away from having to put him to sleep.  We
> wanted 
> to try and<br>&gt; &gt; give him a chance, even though our Vet and 
> the 
> Ophthalmologist that<br>&gt; &gt; was treating kitty's eyes were 
> againstit. 
>  He was on Prednisone 5mg a<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; day for about 6
> months, he 
> began looking and acting healthier. then<br>&gt; &gt; his meds were
> changed 
> to half a pill each day, and then finally a half<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 
> &gt; a
> pill 
> every other day.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; August of 04 he was 
> taken off
> of 
> all meds, and became a healthy chubby<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; cat. ( 16
> lbs) He 
> has been wonderful till Friday of last week.  Then<br>&gt; &gt; over
> this 
> weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned)  and he is<br>&gt; 
> &gt;not 
> eating a thing.  I have tried everything, even his favorite 
> snack,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and no way.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We
> went to 
> the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who
> has<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 
> &gt; worked with us is on holiday.  What a mess.  The one that we saw
> was 
> a<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood 
> andhad 
> such a problem,<br>&gt; &gt; it took three tries with kitty crying,
> can't 
> even tell you what I was<br>&gt; &gt; going to do to her if hubby had
> not 
> stepped in. I spoke to her about<br>&gt; &gt; the prednisone.   She 
> saidshe 
> did not want to put him back on the<br>&gt; &gt; prednisone at this 
> timeand 
> on and on and on.  I told her our Dr. made<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; it 
> quite
> clear to us,( it was down on his chart also )  that if we 
> saw<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; that he was sliding to get him back on the 
> Prednisone.  It was like<br>&gt; &gt; talking to the wall.  She 
> gave me
> an 
> anti-biotic for ten days for him<br>&gt; &gt; and that was 
> it.<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Today I called and got one of the other vets who
> pulled 
> Kitty's chart<br>&gt; &gt; and gave me a prescription for the
> prednisone.  I 
> will be starting it<br>&gt; &gt; later.  Tomorrow we will be taking 
> himto 
> his Ophthalmologist and<br>&gt; &gt; hopefully she will be able to get
> his 
> eyes back under control.  Please<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; God.<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing
> shadows, 
> and is so<br>&gt; &gt; frightened from every noise.  I can't get 
> him to
> eat. 
>  I know how<br>&gt; &gt; important this is on a chubby cat, and how
> quickly 
> they can get...<br>&gt; &gt; Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal 
> withhis 
> immune system..<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; A few moments ago I put a
> little 
> food on my finger and had to force<br>&gt; &gt; his little mouth open
> and I 
> put it on the back of his tongue.  He did<br>&gt; &gt; swallow it, and
> is 
> now sleeping.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Would anyone know of any other
> way 
> of doing it.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sorry about this winded letter,
> it 
> has been a long and heartbreaking 5<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; 
> days.<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank you for taking the time to read it.<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Lisa.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt; 
> &gt;<br>&gt;
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