At 10:36 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:


I think you can...used to be able to

I have never been but I know you can check out a dog to do a sleepover with if you stay at the cottages. I don't know if you can do sleepovers at the hotels!

On 11/27/06, wendy <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think it's very cool that you go there to volunteer.
Do you have any suggestions for where to stay while
visiting Best Friends?  I know there are a few
cottages on property, but I'd like to stay at the
best/most beautiful place if possible.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a
> member for 8
> years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on
> starting a shelter
> in April, but I see so many local groups really
> struggling, and they
> are my back yard, and they are desperate for help.
> We almost
> pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it
> is outside the
> city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees
> live there,
> I have also volunteered at their adoptions in
> Burbank,It is a place
> to catch your breath.
>
> Kelly l
>
> >Best Friends does support local groups also with
> the
> >funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue
> was
> >a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
> >million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
> >programs and outreach and a little over $2.5
> million
> >on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
> >that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?)
> a
> >feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
> >North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help
> a
> >few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
> >organization, one worth donating to.
> >
> >:)
> >Wendy
> >
> >--- Kelly L <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to
> Kanab
> > > many times to
> > > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with
> them
> > > I disagree on
> > > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing
> I
> > > really appreciate
> > > about them is that they do not speak negatively
> > > about any rescue
> > > group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> > > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and
> TNR
> > > (although Peta
> > > is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> > > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> > > there is a local
> > > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption
> fee
> > > which frightens me
> > > and she also does dogs and cats and recently
> lost a
> > > cat to a dog,
> > > Also very frightening, but she works her butt
> off
> > > finding homes for
> > > so very many in need ,
> > > We need to support each other and educate, If
> there
> > > is a dangerous
> > > overcrowding situation that should be addressed
> and
> > > perhaps helped,
> > > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so
> logic
> > > is frequently non
> > > existent,
> > > We need to support each other,,We need to
> support
> > > each other,,,Best
> > > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I
> give
> > > to local groups
> > > who really need it,
> > > Kelly
> > > <http://www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com>www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is
> the
> > > only rescue
> > > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from
> my
> > > view i did not know
> > > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> > > common practice.  i
> > > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> > > just being going
> > > >through some disillusionment with their
> practices.
> > > i truly believe
> > > >their hearts are in the right place - i just
> think
> > > they need a good
> > > >common sense model of best practices.
> > > >
> > > >elizabeth
> > > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> > > chocolate.*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> > > support the ideal of
> > > >rescuing kitties and making their lives
> better...I
> > > just wish that
> > > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured
> the
> > > welfare of the
> > > >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left
> me
> > > very resentful of
> > > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some
> feedback
> > > from those of you
> > > >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I
> realize
> > > that I am myopic
> > > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> > > around here that I
> > > >think of as...well, questionable.  They take
> dogs
> > > out of the pound
> > > >every day and take them around and display them
> in
> > > front of local
> > > >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty
> good
> > > idea, I
> > > >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to
> the
> > > pound at
> > > >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs
> have
> > > been adopted out
> > > >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This
> made
> > > the local news
> > > >and the owner of this group stated that people
> were
> > > taking a risk if
> > > >they adopted and they should be aware of that.
> I
> > > wasn't thrilled
> > > >with that statement either.
> > > >
> > > >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if
> I am
> > > not thrilled
> > > >with their methods.  Lots of dogs have found
> > > forever homes that
> > > >would otherwise have been killed.  Same with
> the
> > > group I am now
> > > >having problems with.  They've rehomed 5,000
> cats.
> > > >
> > > >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not
> > > verbally run down other
> > > >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to
> get
> > > them shut
> > > >down.  I'm in this to help cats, not get
> involved
> > > in politics.  I
> > > >have to remind myself of that just about daily.
>
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