On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The new calici virus, again, I think is scare tactics. The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge is trying to make $ off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP vaccine. I do not use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this is something my vet has never seen a case of, no one has been able to prove it even exists. If you want the most recent recommendations for vaccines, go to the AAFP website and look. I believe they publish them yearly. On 6/21/07, cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had my cats vaccinated every year but I need to > talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want to take > any chances. Have any of you heard of this new strain > of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out to all his > clients owned by cats. You have to go for a booster > then go back in 3 weeks for the last shot. The letter > said that the cat didn't have to come in contact with > the infected cat. We can bring it in to them. It is > highly contagious and a perfectly healthy cat can die > within days if exposed. My vet was even considering > making it mandatory that all of their feline clients > be vaccinated for this. He told me about a vet in the > northeast that had an infected cat come in and I think > he said that vet's office couldn't have any cats in > there for something like 45 days until they > disinfected the office and were sure there was no more > danger from exposure. I have 8 cats and I just got > through with the 2nd shot for all of them. This > disease just sounded to scary to take a chance. All > of my cats are inside cats. They never go out. I > think where I live (Tennessee)it is a law that you > have to have your pets vaccinated for rabies. I am > not sure though. > > Cindy Reasoner > > --- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I lost my Felicity to vaccine-related fibro sarcoma > > http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/felicity.html > > > > They've changed the vaccine now, however...there is > > less risk. There is > > still risk, however. > > > > I can tell you though that with an aggressive fibro > > sarcoma, amputating the > > paw can prolong the life but it cannot save it. > > Felicity had her leg > > amputated. A very sad and heart-wrenching story. > > The survival rate even > > for humans with this type of cancer is abysmal. > > > > I'm glad to hear there is on-going research. > > > > It's a difficult call. Some vaccines are formulated > > to be given every three > > years. Others are formulated for every year. Many > > say you don't want to > > give a vaccine yearly formulated vaccine every 3 > > years. There have also > > been tests that indicate the three year vaccines are > > less effective. I'm > > told that currently the best way to ensure you > > aren't over vaccinating is > > to have blood work done for titers...but you could > > still end up paying for > > that test and still have to pay for the vaccine too. > > > > My vet doesn't like to vaccinate immuno-compromised > > or geriatric cats. I > > confess that I am very shell-shocked from my > > experience with Felicity...and > > I do not have my cats vaccinated every year. It > > might make more sense to > > have them vaccinated more often if they were outdoor > > types. I really think > > that if we still had FeVL+ babies living with us, I > > would have them > > vaccinated more often. > > > > I've lost babies to the vaccine - and I've lost a > > baby to FeVL+. Both are > > heart-wrenching. > > > > elizabeth > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > The risk of vaccination and sarcoma is not > > inconsequential. > > > Many veterinarians have altered their vaccination > > protocols to > > > every three years because recent studies that have > > indicated we are > > > over vaccinating our animals. In many instances > > one vaccination > > > can protect an animal for its lifetime, and > > revaccination and boosters > > > are driven by the economics of a practice and > > pharmaceutical companies. > > > > > > Dr Jean Dodds DVM and Ronald Schultz DVM are now > > conducting the 'Rabies > > > Challenge" > > > research, which is an effort to prove that one > > rabies vaccination is > > > sufficient for > > > the lifetime of an animal. > > > > > > I did not intend to get into a vaccination > > discussion, other than to > > > say it is prudent to > > > research the type and frequency of vaccinations. > > There are many > > > practices that now > > > inoculate cats just above the paw, so that in the > > event of a sarcoma, > > > the paw can be amputated > > > and the animals life saved. > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Melissa Lind wrote: > > > > > > > I had heard that on the radio or > > something--about not needing > > > > vaccinations > > > > every year. If I don't have to put them through > > the stress...I think > > > > I'll > > > > approach my new vet about the distemper. I guess > > my reasoning for not > > > > vaccinating the youngest is simply because she > > doesn't ever go > > > > outside. She > > > > doesn't even sneak out, or try to sneak out. The > > chances of her > > > > getting FeLV > > > > from contact through the screen patio door are > > so slim, that I just > > > > would > > > > rather not. But, if I ran a rescue where I had > > cats coming and going > > > > all the > > > > time, I definitely would vaccinate--more risk > > involved. > > > > > > > > Melissa > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Kelley > > > > Saveika > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:32 AM > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > Subject: Re: The best food for Duncan?? > > > > > > > > I think that the risk of vaccination and > > sarcomas is so low as to be > > > > inconsequential. I think it is really important > > that all cats be > > > > vaccinated against FELV in the first year, and > > my vet agrees, so > > > > that's what my rescue does, even though it adds > > to our cost. > > > > > > > > It is a personal decision though, like > > everything else. I'm certainly > > > > not trying to tell other folks what to do. > > > > > > > > I did see that the latest AAFP vaccination > > guidelines recommend going > > > > to once every 3 years against distemper... > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I agree that the majority of the people here > > mix, but I never would. > > > >> This > > > > is > > > >> probably because I'm a newbie to this and a > > doubting-Thomas of sorts, > > > >> but > > > > I > > > >> just can't bring myself to expose my youngest > > (less than one year) > > > >> since > > > > she > > > >> would be most susceptible, and I've opted not > > to vaccinate her against > > > > FeLV > > > >> because of the risk associated with vaccination > > and sarcomas. I don't > > > >> have > > > >> any FeLV cats now, but when I did, I kept him > > in one room until I was > > > >> able > > > >> to find him a home. It was a lonely life for > > the poor guy, but I > > > >> spent a > > > > lot > > > >> of time with him. If I had to do it long-term, > > I'd set up an area for > > > >> several FeLV cats so they could have > > companionship. That's my plan > > > >> for the > > > >> future. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> But, I'll have to say that most people here > > know a lot more about this > > > > than > > > >> I do-but that's just my own personal choice so > > far. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Melissa > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of > > > >> catatonya > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:57 AM > > > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. 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