I use bleach. I have to to kill the virus such as URI that comes from the
sheltr.  I use bleach in the litterboxes to kill the giardia, coccidia.  I
use bleach in my sheets so i don't hav eto sleep on peed on sheets.

I try to use simple green when I think it will work.

The thing that mystifies me is that it is affecting a 10,12, and 2 5  year
old cats...yet the 3 weeks olds are just fine *knock wood*.  3 of them were
owner surrenders and one was obviously an owned cat -spayed and very
friendly.  A great staff favaprote at T:AC

I thik they are distessed and it is destroyuing their immune system.


On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 No decks or fences?  Here they tried to use treated wood (the new
version) in the walls where it touched the concrete.

Any insecticides?  Termite/roach/ants stuff?  Any cleaning solutions?
Bleaches?

I'm not picking at you.  Please don't think that.  I know of other cases
where things we think nothing of cause problems for our friends and many
times we never find out what.  Consider that there appears to be an increase
in cancers among people that some are blaming on the numerous chemicals now
in our food, water, homes.

If you have a good alternative vet in your area, try him/her.  The ones I
know can sense the problems when regular vets, who are really attuned to
science and the scientific method, just can't.  Mine have convinced me that
even the little blue crystals in some litter is not good for cats.  They
have the ability to see as a cat.  It is much like baby-proofing a house.
You get 6 inches from everything with your nose, eyes, mouth etc.

You mentioned carpet.  Consider what you use to clean it and whether it is
outgassing.  I don't have any here but picked up a piece to make Dixie a
scratching post (very good carpet remnant).  It has been on the porch rail
for 3 months outgassing.  Dixie won't have anything to do with it and it
will never make it into the house again.  I am just trying to see how long
it takes the odor to go away.   Again, I am not picking at you.  This awful
set of events may be something entirely within the cars.  I had 2 unrelated
female cats several months apart die.  I trapped them and had them spayed at
different local vets.  One had every test done before she was spayed.  The
other had just the basics done.  Both appeared extremely healthy.  Both were
fine the night before they died but both died the third day.  I was so
totally broken up that I asked my personal vet (120 miles away) what was
going on.  Without an autopsy (animal version) no one could be sure but he
couldn't come up with anything.  One could easily have had undetected heart
problems but both of them???????????  All of this is to say that sometimes
things just happen no matter how careful we are and, again, please don't
think I am picking at you............just throwing out ideas/feelings in the
hope that something might ring true with you.  You have been thru so much.
Maybe an angel will sit on your shoulder and whisper an answer.  That is my
prayer for you.





                                                 If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
                                                 will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
                                                                  St.
Francis

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me


I don't have any wood.  I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it,
vinyl tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces.
Where the ac flooded and we had to rip up the tile...but that was 3 years
ago...

On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  They did until a couple of years ago and it is still available for some
> uses.  Two/three years ago, after it had been banned for use in houses, a
> dealer for BK Cypress Log Homes quoted me a package that contained arsenic
> treated lumber and, when I questioned him, sent me an awful email regarding
> the safety of this wood and how no person would eat it.  Tennessee Log Homes
> had a dealer who was very unhappy when I rejected some of his arguments re
> arsenic treated wood.  (There is a lot more to that story.......if you ever
> consider using them email me personally and you won't consider it for
> long).   Arsenic leaches into the soil and poisons the plants, water etc.
> It is also used in some fencing and creosote is used in RR ties that are
> used for landscape timbers.   Power poles and telephone poles as well as
> fence posts more than a couple of years old are probably treated.  They
> certainly weren't removed.   There are questions about the current
> "accepted" treated woods.  Please remember how long the arsenic treated was
> considered safe.    Obviously I am a tree-hugger but please, with that many
> illnesses, please have it checked.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                                                  If you have men who
> will exclude any of God's creatures
>                                                  from the shelter of
> compassion and pity, you will have men who
>                                                  will deal likewise with
> their fellow man.
>                                                                   St.
> Francis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:26 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
>
>
> *Do they use arsenic in pressure treated lumber still today?!?*
>
> On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >  Check for arsenic as in treated lumber.......decks, play areas etc.
> > Even wood used in a basement.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                                                  If you have men who
> > will exclude any of God's creatures
> >                                                  from the shelter of
> > compassion and pity, you will have men who
> >                                                  will deal likewise
> > with their fellow man.
> >                                                                   St.
> > Francis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *To:* felvtalk <Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:18 PM
> > *Subject:* Something is killing my cats, please help me
> >
> >
> > This is the toll so far from this year, not including kittens.
> >
> > Joey - 10 - died in late April.  Being treated for AIHA.
> >
> > Lucky Lady - 12 - got sick, was adopted by my vet, apparently
> > recovered but is now dying, they think cancer.
> >
> > Caroline - ran up a bill in excess of $1,000.  No one knows what was
> > or is wrong.  Possible FIP (but she's getting better), brain cancer, toxo.
> >
> > Suzie - I don't even want to see the bill and don't know how I am
> > going to pay it.  Possible FIP, toxo.
> >
> > They are all 5 and up.  All presented with massive dehydration (skin
> > tenting), anorexia, massiive weight loss.
> >
> > Some w/neuro symptoms..bloodwork varying...
> >
> > All tested neg/neg for FELV.
> >
> > Tehy are down to looking in my house for asbestos and lead....someone
> > please help me...I don't know what is killing my cats....
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> --
> Leslie     =^..^=
>
> To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden
> patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That
> only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
> ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>


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