If I am not wrong, every brand should have modified or killed version -- but am not 100% sure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelley Saveika<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
I am not sure if it is killed or not, Hideyo. I'm trying to find out, but haven't found anything so far. I know my vet prefers them to Ft Dodge.... Most rescuers use Ft Dodge, they are cheaper... On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Meiral is supposed to be good - do they use killed vaccine? I here that we should always use Killed version especially for Felk to be safe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelley Saveika<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge If it is that new he is not using it. He uses Meiral. Also the free spay/neuter clinic, where I get my rescue kitties inoculated, uses Meiral. I used to use Dr Samon for injections for all the kittes..but then he doubled his prices...ouch ouch. On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Sure -- I don't know if it's commercially available right now,, as the pharmaceutical company came over to my vet office to do some test/sample on clinic kitties.. I will get the names for you, though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelley Saveika<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge Can you get it for me just in case my vet does not know....he keeps up on things..occasionally I can surprise him, like when I found the flourescine dye protocol for telling which kitty is peeing outside the box...but when I asked him about interferon for Suzie he said he already had her on the human..(I know the feline is better but he had her on the human without even being asked). On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO < [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: by the way, did you know there is a now new type of felk vaccine, much safer than traditional ones -- I will get the name if you guys are not already aware of this. ----- Original Message ----- From: MaryChristine<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's what on theirs. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org <> HOWEVER, i know that i saw that 70% figure in a number of places, and it annoys me that i can't find it now. re: vaccinated cats' immunity, as far as anyone i've heard of can tell, there are NO, zip, zilch, nada, eppes documented cases of a vaccinated TRUE NEGATIVE (ie, retested after the 120 days necessary) who has ever turned positive from living with a true, retested positive. we all know of cases where supposedly negative cats have turned up positive later, but in none of those cases was the negative result ever verified. i know that in two households, mine and at the sanctuary, with all cats supposedly negative, we've found out later that SOMEONE was actually positive, when cats got sick. also according to the winn feline foundation, the new FeLV vaccines are about 95% effective. (like gloria, i really don't like to think about where they are coming up with the statistics, and what they're doing to our cats to do so.) however, anyone with experience with FeLVs in large numbers has questioned the "85% efficacy rate" of the vaccine for a long time, in light of the high percentage of UNVACCINATED cats who throw off the virus, and the fact that vaccinated cats living with positives stay negative. i've questioned whether or not that 85% if just among kittens, frail elders, and other compromised populations.... thanks for the links, hideyo! -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... 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