During the years of concentration camps, very few babies were born to the women
who were being tortured there, even though rape was rampant. It wasn't that
they "turned off their reproductive system" because it was a "legitimate rape"
but because below a certain nutritional level, the body of a woman can't
sustain a pregnancy and miscarries. Deer and other wild animal populations
regulate themselves during times when food is scarce and then grow during times
when food is readily available. Feeding corn to deer in the winter assures all
these darling sport hunters of a good stock of victims for their sport when
deer season arrives again. If hunting and eating the victim is a good means of
population control, maybe we should reconsider cannibalism. Humans are soon
going to outgrow themselves. There are 8 billion of us infecting the planet at
this time and if even half of those breed, we will have another 4 billion
within a year or two..
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors
too!
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From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:14 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting
Yes, it would make sense – if cats had not been domesticated so long ago, they
would still be part of the natural ecosystem, be considered wildlife and
probably still reproduce only once, instead of numerous times throughout the
year, as they do now. It does happen to most wildlife, but obviously very
differently, depending on the species.
It’s too bad that this doesn’t apply to domesticated animals anymore. I doubt
that companion animals will ever become extinct. My hope would be that every
time someone wanted a cat or a dog, they would have to be on a waiting list –
what’s happening right now, is obscene – the number of healthy, beautiful
animals that are killed routinely in shelters and pounds is unbearable. I
started the cat rescue 20 years ago, and I don’t think much has changed, other
than other small groups in the area doing the same thing. People are still not
spaying/neutering, still abandoning their pets, and many are still total jerks!
Those of us who do rescue, are paying emotional, physically, and financially
for others’ irresponsible behavior, because we care.
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn
Hargreaves
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting
Does this happen with all species?
I think the best thing to do is leave animals alone, too, but when feral cats
bother people to the point where they are going to kill them, it's probably
better to try to get numbers down. I prefer the methods some used with
wolves, doing tubal ligations/vasectomies instead of messing with their
hormones by taking out the sex organs. That said, we're real good at
exterminating species, so I hope that doesn't happen with companion animals.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM, GRAS <g...@optonline.net> wrote:
It’s really interesting because when, and that’s rarely, that they reach a
biological carrying capacity (or in a severe winter and no food), sperm counts
go down and females, in real dire situations, will actually absorb their
fetuses. Also, people mistake deer as starving in the winter because they may
seem thin, ribs showing, it’s only that thyroxin (a calcium-rich hormone)
regulates their metabolisms in cold weather….even iof a lot of food were
available, they might not be able to absorb all the nutrition.
The best thing is to leave them alone – thousands of years, and they have been
able to regulate themselves until commercial hunting almost wiped them out at
the end of the last century, and states had to start managing them to bring
back the herds – then they found out what a big business it can be (hunting
licenses, P-R Act, etc)- now they manage for MSY.
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn
Hargreaves
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting
Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species will
level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, despite
predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a species'
population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized ones take up
some of that capacity.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
No, they wouldn’t reproduce the same way, that’s the whole point! According to
research on reproduction, hunted herds twin only 14%, while hunted herds twin
or even triple at 38%. It’s just nature’s way! In fact, predators are better
hunters because they go for the sick and old animals, while hunters avoid them,
thereby actually degrading the gene pool – healthier animals are not the result
of hunting – that’s done at deer farms by mating the best with the best
specimen, producing fantastic trophy animals.
No, I do not eat any meat.
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