According to the investigator for the Humand Society here in eastrn Missouri, when he is called to investigate a charge of animal abuse, he ends up reporting the people on child abuse. The 2 seems to go hand in hand.
---- Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > Yes, definitely some people should have been spayed/neutered! > > The least requirement would be some kind of a course on child-rearing and > responsible parenting. > > I wouldn’t adopt to just anyone – therefore, why should morons have babies > and abuse or ignore them? > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Joslin Potter > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:08 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting > > > > That is horrible, those poor children. Thank God for their Grandparents, it's > too bad however, that Grandma and Grandpa can't enjoy them like they are > supposed too... WTH is up with people? > > > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" <dlg...@windstream.net> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting > > > I would like to spay/neuter a lot of the "intelligent" human population. > They also treat their children the same way. i know of one who feeds her > children cereal because they can get that by themselves. She would prefer to > do her heroin instead of cooking. She is now in prison and her children stay > with grandparents or roam the streets. > > > ---- Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > > Yes, it would make sense – if cats had not been domesticated so long ago, > > they would still be part of the natural ecosystem, be considered wildlife > > and probably still reproduce only once, instead of numerous times > > throughout the year, as they do now. It does happen to most wildlife, but > > obviously very differently, depending on the species. > > > > It’s too bad that this doesn’t apply to domesticated animals anymore. I > > doubt that companion animals will ever become extinct. My hope would be > > that every time someone wanted a cat or a dog, they would have to be on a > > waiting list – what’s happening right now, is obscene – the number of > > healthy, beautiful animals that are killed routinely in shelters and pounds > > is unbearable. I started the cat rescue 20 years ago, and I don’t think > > much has changed, other than other small groups in the area doing the same > > thing. People are still not spaying/neutering, still abandoning their > > pets, and many are still total jerks! Those of us who do rescue, are > > paying emotional, physically, and financially for others’ irresponsible > > behavior, because we care. > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Kathryn Hargreaves > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:32 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting > > > > > > > > Does this happen with all species? > > > > > > > > I think the best thing to do is leave animals alone, too, but when feral > > cats bother people to the point where they are going to kill them, it's > > probably better to try to get numbers down. I prefer the methods some used > > with wolves, doing tubal ligations/vasectomies instead of messing with > > their hormones by taking out the sex organs. That said, we're real good at > > exterminating species, so I hope that doesn't happen with companion animals. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM, GRAS <g...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > > It’s really interesting because when, and that’s rarely, that they reach a > > biological carrying capacity (or in a severe winter and no food), sperm > > counts go down and females, in real dire situations, will actually absorb > > their fetuses. Also, people mistake deer as starving in the winter because > > they may seem thin, ribs showing, it’s only that thyroxin (a calcium-rich > > hormone) regulates their metabolisms in cold weather….even iof a lot of > > food were available, they might not be able to absorb all the nutrition. > > > > The best thing is to leave them alone – thousands of years, and they have > > been able to regulate themselves until commercial hunting almost wiped them > > out at the end of the last century, and states had to start managing them > > to bring back the herds – then they found out what a big business it can be > > (hunting licenses, P-R Act, etc)- now they manage for MSY. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Kathryn Hargreaves > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12 PM > > > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting > > > > Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species > > will level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, > > despite predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a > > species' population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized > > ones take up some of that capacity. > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > > No, they wouldn’t reproduce the same way, that’s the whole point! According > > to research on reproduction, hunted herds twin only 14%, while hunted herds > > twin or even triple at 38%. It’s just nature’s way! In fact, predators > > are better hunters because they go for the sick and old animals, while > > hunters avoid them, thereby actually degrading the gene pool – healthier > > animals are not the result of hunting – that’s done at deer farms by mating > > the best with the best specimen, producing fantastic trophy animals. > > > > No, I do not eat any meat. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
