Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums

[Margo]

Hi Katherine (I think:)                         Much as I hate to recommend a yahoo group these days, the Feline Anemia group is an incredible resource. Even if you only read the files, you will find there's much to be done. And the more you know, the better advocate you can be for your boy. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Feline_Anemia/info Wishing you and Terence the best, Margo   -----Original Message----- From: "Katherine K." Sent: Oct 30, 2013 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums Thanks everyone. Terence's PCV is around 13%. Temperature yesterday was 102.9. He got a shot of Convenia and we started the lixotinic. Gums looking slightly pinker today. I'm waiting to hear if his red blood cells look like they are regenerative or non regenerative. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote: Watch the lunch meat. I didn't realize a lot of the stuff you get at the deli counter has onions & or garlic added. Beth "Amanda K. Payne" <amandak.pa...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi, > >Pet-tinic is a liquid supplement rich in iron, copper and Vitamins B12, B6 >and Thiamine, among other vitamins.  The belief is that this supplement >will help the animal produce more RBCs.  There is also a product called >Liqui-Tinic which offers similar vitamins and minerals.  It does, however, >have corn syrup in it which I am not a big fan of. > >Transfer Factor Plus is a combination of amino acids and vitamins.  It's >works by boosting the immune system's response.  FeLV+ felines are at >greater risk for contracting illness because of the virus; by boosting the >immune system, they are able to fight opportunistic illness better. > >I obviously can't guarantee these are what kept her alive.  It could have >been the constant love, lunch meat or her little body fighting on its own. > However, it also didn't hurt.  Several people on this forum have used one >or the other or both and have had success with them.  I truly believe that >if she hadn't contracted FIP, she would have continued to recover with the >help of these supplements... and endless amounts of lunch meat ;) > >-A > > >On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Avaykn <ava...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Amanda, >> Can you please tell me more about Petinic and transfer factor? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 13:31, "Amanda K. Payne" <amandak.pa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Katherine, >> >> I definitely have to back Heather here.  Pale gums and eating litter are >> very indicative of anemia.  Earlier this year, our sweet girl Polli, >> started licking walls and clay planters.  She slowly lost interest in her >> toys and food.  By the time I took her to the vet, she was severely anemic. >>  The vet didn't think she had more than a week and was hesitant to treat >> her.  She was also about six months when she started showing symptoms. >> >> We gave her Pet-tinic and Transfer Factor Plus in addition to a >> vitamin-rich diet and a lot of pampering.  She fought through the anemia >> but we lost her to FIP five months later. >> >> I would suggest taking him to the vet as soon as possible.  The earlier >> you catch anemia, the better the chances are of treating it. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Heather <furrygi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, definitely.  I would get him in asap (today).  This is a worry with >>> any kitty and especially felv+ kitties.  Last time someone told me their >>> cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the >>> vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried). >>> >>> Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather >>> err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely >>> worriesome. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading >>>> past posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times >>>> recently eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter >>>> made from corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick >>>> the shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms >>>> of anemia..missing a mineral or something. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather <furrygi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near >>>>> death.  I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap.  FELV+ >>>>> cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and >>>>> think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice. >>>>> >>>>> Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed >>>>> quickly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. <kaths...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite >>>>>> problem - pale gums. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a >>>>>> little skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to >>>>>> it. I checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 >>>>>> siblings (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine >>>>>> and getting wet and dry food. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the >>>>>> vet. Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so >>>>>> than usual. >>>>>> >>>>>> Katherine >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand >> Russell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > >-- >"There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand >Russell > >_______________________________________________ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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