On 9 October 2015 at 22:58, Anders Logg <anders.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you use the ufc::cell version of Expression::eval you can access the
> cell normal via ufc::cell.local_facet.
>
>
I can do that, but was hoping I could use the simple JIT-compiled
interface, e.g.

   bc = DirichletBC(W, Constant(1.0), domain, 1)

Garth

I see the point in being able to specify the value of the normal component
> but it's a bit of a special case. In general the dofs can be integral
> moments or certain components at certain points and then it's unclear what
> you really need to specify. Better then to specify a function of the same
> value dimension and say that this function should agree for all the dofs on
> the facet.
>
> --
> Anders
>
>
> fre 9 okt. 2015 kl 22:32 skrev Garth N. Wells <gn...@cam.ac.uk>:
>
>> I thought you might reply, Doug!
>>
>> On 9 October 2015 at 21:14, Douglas N Arnold <arn...@umn.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> How would you  handle H(curl) spaces in a consistent way?
>>>
>>
>> H(curl) is trickier, but not a problem I'm facing at the moment.
>>
>>
>>> There you have to provide a tangential vector field, but there
>>> is no natural basis for the tangent space.  The current method
>>> is to apply a full n-vector but only to pay attention to the
>>> tangential part (I believe).  The analogue is the current
>>> approach for H(div) as well.
>>
>>
>> Yes, for H(div) it pulls out the normal part. What's tedious is that in a
>> JIT-compiled Expression I don't have ready access to the normal vector. For
>> the physical problem I'm modelling I know u.n - it would be natural if this
>> was easy to apply. It's also misleading for the naive user that they can
>> supply the full n-vector when part of it is discarded.
>>
>> Garth
>>
>>
>>> I see real problems in changing
>>> one of these, but not the other.
>>>
>>>  -- Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/09/2015 01:48 PM, Garth N. Wells wrote:
>>>
>>>> In DOLFIN, when applying Dirichlet bcs to H(div) spaces, DOLFIN insists
>>>> that the bc function is a vector-valued function, whereas the physically
>>>> and mathematically natural function is scalar (normal component). The
>>>> present state is annoying when boundaries are not axis-aligned.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a nice fix for this, or will it require low-level
>>>> changes?  Looks like the problem is ufc::finite_elemenent::restrict.
>>>>
>>>> Garth
>>>>
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