Hi,

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 03:39:22PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 12:34:05PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 at 11:58 Moritz Barsnick <barsn...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 02:18:32 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > +it is malice its rarely good to start with that as initial assumption.
> > >                ^^^^^
> > >                , it's
> > >
> > > > +The goal of Software development is to create technical excellence, not
> > > for any
> > >                ^ s
> > >
> > >
> > Let's compare this to the VLC code of conduct:
> > https://wiki.videolan.org/Code_of_Conduct/
> > 
> > Note how it has a list of specific violations, instead of vague things like
> > "Be excellent" that the FFmpeg one has.
> > Note how it has a huge section on disciplinary procedures.
> 
> i dont mind at all to be more specific, do people want a more specific
> list similar to vlc ?
> I thought it wasnt neccessary to write it as a strict "law" as if
> theres a nation of criminals that needs precissely worded laws.
> But rather a nation of good meaning people who all want to work
> together.

I have to agree with Kieran here. I believe that as a community, we definitely
_want_ to assume good faith, etc. But conflict resolution requires strict,
codified consequences for violations of the CoC, to ensure fairness. The
language needs to be made more serious so that people actually take it in the
way it is intended.

In addition to VLC, many other popular open-source guidelines, such as:

- Citizen Code of Conduct: http://citizencodeofconduct.org/
- Contributor Covenant: http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/
- Node.js: https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
- Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/conduct/
- etc.

all have consequences of unwelcomed behavior and/or a specific definition of
an unwelcomed behavior.

Timothy
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