On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:50:17PM +0200, Christophe Gisquet wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-05-20 2:38 GMT+02:00 Timothy Gu <timothyg...@gmail.com>: > >> > Note how it has a list of specific violations, instead of vague things > >> > like > >> > "Be excellent" that the FFmpeg one has. > >> > Note how it has a huge section on disciplinary procedures. > [...] > > I have to agree with Kieran here. I believe that as a community, we > > definitely > > _want_ to assume good faith, etc. But conflict resolution requires strict, > > codified consequences for violations of the CoC, to ensure fairness. The > > language needs to be made more serious so that people actually take it in > > the > > way it is intended. > > Completely agree. Without sanctions, I fear it won't help mitigate problems.
I belive that people simply not accepting aggression and _politely_ pointing it out to their peers when they treat others disrespectful alone would already have a big effect on (i belive) debian lists i saw multiple people politely point out that an attack was inappropriate and it stoped, no one was banned I thus think similar stern but respectfull&polite community opposition alone could be effective for ffmpeg I think a big part of the problem is that if one insults another the friends of both support the seperation (that is we good vs. they bad thinking). People should instead oppose the disrespect itself but support people on both sides (we are all good, the language used / act there was bad) [...] > Also, because a text is subject to interpretation, the CoC could maybe > state how this is arbitrated. This is a very hard problem and also part of why i suggest to wait with adding penalties/sanctions. Note iam suggesting to wait with adding penalties NOT to not add penalties if it doesnt work without also if penalties are used they will in practice probably end up being applied to both sides as "who started" is likely often another very hard problem people would have very heated oppinions about [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony. -- Heraclitus
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
_______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
