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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, King Daevid MacKenzie wrote: > >> I am certain that if Air America did not fill the void in those markets, >> if there is proved demand > > ..."if"??!? You haven't bothered to look at the ratings for WLIB New York, > or KLSD San Diego, or KPOJ Portland, or WXXM Madison. They've all had > significant increases in their ratings in less than two years, especially in > the demographics that are never attracted by all-fascists-all-the-time. If > Air America is legitimately in money trouble (and I'd never trust rightist > rags like the New York Post or Sun to provide honest evidence of such, as > you seem to), it's because their sales office is impotent, as their audience > development is already well ahead of any other talk radio operation that has > started from scratch in the last 25 years... > >> It isn't just their management decisions which put them in trouble - as >> bad as that was. It is also market share and perhaps their type of >> programming and some of their talk show hosts. > > ...you obviously don't comprehend commercial radio, or you wouldn't be > mouthing off so much about "market share." Talk radio is not like music > radio, in that the format cannot be judged in short-term results. The > average for full development of talk radio formats is just over five years. > Air America hasn't even been on the air for two years, and its original > managers were Republican operatives who did their damndest to see the > company fail in its first month... Oh, come on. Cut the crap. The original owners where liberal who also happened to fuck up by borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and they got squeezed because the market has not matured for liberal talk radio and it may never happen. First of all the left is fragmented; it just isn't one big monolith with similar agendas and never was. The left doesn't attack each other because of differences in strategy; they attack each other because there is often a bigger divide between folks on the left than there is between an honest conservative and an honest liberal. I could have substituted Republican for conservative but the party has morphed into something entirely different and is also fragmented into a lot of different parts. Neo cons are in there too, but they are not conservatives but they are former Trotskyists who take a Straussian view - even if many have never read Strauss. But to call the original owners of Air America Republican operatives is something the Stalinists might say. It is balderdash. Air America has a market to build and can afford to be more generous with a segment which cannot afford satelite radio and doesn't have broadband and includes those who in most cases have older computers and can only listen by downloading. I know many fall in that category but since Air America is young and building market share - or trying to, they can't afford to be Rush Limbaugh and charge for downloading (and incidentally or not, they are charging the same exact fee that Ruch charges for a download of his show (and access to special member areas on his site - which I understand Air American plans to do too.) Really stupid! Maybe in five years, but not now and not to do this to progressives. You remember that word, don't you? Hank > >> But I don't see how criticizing Air America for being stupid is >> undemocratic or counter-productive. > > ...it most certainly is when your sources are the fascist blogosphere and > Faux News wannabe nests like the New York Post and Sun. That's like Lenin > and Trotsky basing Bolshevik policy on the scribblings of Rasputin... > > > King Daevid MacKenzie, WLSU-FM 88.9 La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA > heard occasionally at http://www.radio4all.net > http://myspace/kingdaevid > "You can live in your dreams, but only if you are worthy of them." HARLAN > ELLISON > > > > ----- > / o o \ > ====OO=====OO========================= > Hank Roth's Place - http://pnews.org/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on the InterNUT since 1982) > ============================================ > Fightback - notification news and views list > Subscribe/Unsub at: http://pnews.org/dada/ > ================================================ > Fightback - (pnews "progressive news and views") > OPEN discussion - subscribe or unsubscribe in > subject line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================ > ----- / o o \ ====OO=====OO========================= Hank Roth's Place - http://pnews.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on the InterNUT since 1982) ============================================ Fightback - notification news and views list Subscribe/Unsub at: http://pnews.org/dada/ ================================================ Fightback - (pnews "progressive news and views") OPEN discussion - subscribe or unsubscribe in subject line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================