Thank you, Klaus, for these very succinct comments. Anyone listening can hear the force and power- and dare I say it -arrogance- these devices produce. I am very impressed that you are able to analyse and identify the various protocols and methods used. I certainly picked the low thirds in tenors and baritones, and the clashing on-beats, but I found it difficult to determine exactly what else Goodwin had done to produce the effect. Thanks again. Regards, Keith in OZ
----- Original Message ----- From: Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] Luftwaffe March > > From: "J. Simon van der Walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> From: "Peter Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > >> The name of this march is Aces High and you're right, it WAS written by Ron > >> Goodwin, but only for the film - it has nothing to do with the real > >> Luftwaffe. > > > > I'm not so sure about that. One of my old professors at college - who knew > > far too much about this kind of thing - told me that, athough the march was > > written by a British composer to portray the Luftwaffe in the film, it was > > such a good tune, and such a successful pastiche of a German march, > > including certain details of orchestration which elude me know, > > <http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000IXSK/ref%3Dbr%5Flf%5Fli%5F1% > 5F3/026-0216906-9077243> > > lets you hear clips from the soundtrack of the movie (which I have not > seen). > > Even if the clip from Aces High is only 30 seconds long it presents a number > of very typical traits from German military music. > > the transition ends with a very brute I-V-I definition of the tonality > > the bass drum and cymbals play very much on the beat, no drive radiating > from them > > the contrabass (not bass) tuba gruffs away very un-elegantly (no bowed-bass > type of decay of each note) > > "die Tenorhörner und Baritonen" play beautifully and split out in thirds. > Normally the introduction of the thirds happens, when "die Baritonen" take > the lower third, when the second period of a tune goes up a third over the > first period > > the trumpets playing signals, which could have been played on natural > trumpets > > > If you listen to the 4th sound-clip you can hear the same theme treated very > differently with a not especially German effect. > > Klaus > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
