At 6:29 PM 09/29/03, Kurt Gnos wrote: >I have a song and enter some lyrics. Now I copy something and change the >lyrics of the copied part --> now the "old" part, where I copied the lyrics >from, will change, too. Removing the lyrics of the new part using mass >mover - remove only - items - lyrics works MOST of the time. Has anyone >found a way to stop this erratic behaviour?
This is not a bug; it's a logical result of the way the lyrics system works. When you copy a passage that contains lyrics, it will not make a duplicate of the lyrics. Rather, it will duplicate the lyric *assignments*. This is exactly analogous to dynamic expressions. If you had copied a passage of music that included a "ff" marking, and you edit that "ff" to "pp" in the copy, it will change all of your ff's to pp's throughout the piece. The only difference is that expessions don't have a "type in score" feature that hides the fact that you are altering data lying one level of indirection deeper. We have discussed the Finale's entire lyrics scheme here at length, and it's an open question whether it ought to work this way. I think perhaps a warning is in order when copying music with lyrics, since this seems to be a feature that is non-intuitive to many users and it can result in undesired results that aren't noticed until much later. Better yet, one ought to be given the option to create a duplicate set of lyrics. Given the way it does work, my recommendation is that any time you copy music with lyrics, you immediately clear out all lyrics in the copy and reassign them. I know that sounds draconian, but it could save you some headaches. -- At 3:09 PM 09/29/03, Craig Parmerlee wrote: >I've noticed the same behavior when expressions (or maybe it is >measure-attached text) are copied with the mass edit tool. That >behavior is somewhere between bewildering and maddening. It seems to >me that a copy ought ALWAYS to create new instances of every >object. After all, if you wanted two instances of the same objects, >isn't that what MIRROR copy is there for? I'm not necessarily defending Finale's behavior in this instance, but once again I point out that the lyrics here are analogous to expressions. Would you want your copy function to always create new instances of every dynamic marking? I think most people would not, but that's what you seem to be asking for here. (Ditto for chord symbols, I assume.) mdl _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale