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On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 06:37 AM, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote:
I would take this approach as well.
Regarding spacing, people have mentioned that you can tinker with the
options regarding spacing before and after the music at barlines. In such a
piece as the one here, I would have gone a different route: in the unmetered
sections I would set Finale to one measure for each line (hiding the time
sigs) and then your spacing would require much less tedious tweaking. This,
of course, would only be possible if you have planned your layout in
advance.
This seems counterproductive to me, and the worst way to go. You lock your systems, and there's no flexibility. Finale seems to hate copying complex structures in compound meters, so the less I have to deal with uber-compound-meters, the easier a time I'm going to have with the score.
In this particular instance I think it's a good thing to have faux bar lines -- it helps mark the phrasing. I took the basic layout from the only edition -- a glance to say this ends here, this begins here, but worked from a photocopy of the autograph. The astonishing thing is that at least two publishers thought I'd copied the Yorkville edition directly -- whereas I discovered I took the same approach as the engraver of the Yorkville edition. So I must be doing something right. There's still much to learn however.
One more observation to add to those by others: the arpeggiando lines are too tightly positioned to the chords, accidentals, clefs, etc. For these, make sure you have avoid collision of articulations checked in the music spacing options. Place the marks far enough left of the chord and accidentals (just far enough that does not appear to be up against a note or accidental), and then respace the music.
I'm having trouble finding it, as I am with a lot of these errors people see. Page and system, please, and if there's more than one, let me know which one is touching --- I thought I hit all of them and they don't touch at all. PDF's still are slaves to screen resolution so you gotta blow it up big before it gets accurate -- it would help if you could tell me what zoom level you're looking at. The impression that I'm getting is that a lot of people have a quick look at an outer zoom, see something, think "it's wrong" and then use the opportunity to tell me what a slob I am I scan everything in my hard copies and these errors aren't there. I'd been warned about this so it's actually seperating those who want to play editor from those who can help me tweak my library much nicer.
I think you got what you asked for, and with the advice of those on the list who are involved with preparing scores for publication (not me normally), you have some good tools to proceed with. The approach that many people take is to look at the commercial publications you admire, and use Finale and the available fonts and plugins to emulate the look of various scores as appropriate. If you have an eye for detail, and know how to take advantage of the flexibility of Finale, then you will be fine.
Actually, it's been a bit like I expected. I got about 80% uselessness and about 20% usefulness so far. People don't understand the question, especially Mr. Motekaitis, (whose aim seems to be to insult me, not to help me, rendering his opinion the #1 most useless). But the question is not "look at this score and tell me what's wrong with this."
It's "critique this please." "Critique" doesn't mean to tell me what's wrong and leave it at that -- it means you gotta go further. This score is a baby step into far more complex things. I want to find the people who approach doing a score like this the same way that I do, who are hopefully in the trenches and I want to learn what it is that they do to prepare themselves for a grand job, and what they do to grind it out. I do appreciate the responses, but I'm more into grabbing methods, and there's been three or four people who have been really helpful and forthcoming.
Stuff that's been helpful so far::
1. Have I considered my fonts? Have I considered customizing and making my own "look"? What can I do to begin doing so?
2. Here's what I use as a first step for the Patterson Plug-ins -- I start with these settings and work here.
3. Discussion of acceptable error ratio vs. deadline --- what flies in the business?
4. What do you expect to see in a portfolio? What would be impressive? What's overkill for which potential clients? How to organise its presentation and customize it?
5. Method of organization -- what factors affect which work you do in which scrub? How do you organise your scrubs? What do you look for in each pass?
6. Discussion of contracts, lawyers, FA's, etc -- the preparation for that side of the business..
7. Methods for dealing with anamolies in Finale (weird slurs, articulations that get away). Not simply workarounds but this you can try to avoid being plagued by one.
8. Acceptability of certain types of crashes.
9. Slope of slurs.
10. Engraver slur pitfalls.
More questions as I think of them.
Thanks everybody. Keef.
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