But most likely those same people would have produced the same uglier output (probably even uglier, given Finale's defaults) had they simply opened the box and began using Finale, which is most likely what they did using Sibelius.

An experienced Sibelius user would have most likely made a similar remark: "If that fool had bothered to read the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sibelius manual and had practiced a little, it would fit on 2 pages and look better."

It's totally unfair for anybody to use the output of an inexperienced user of either program as a basis for comparison to what an experienced user of either program can do.

David H. Bailey



Eric Dannewitz wrote:
And I see the total opposite. I can't count how many times I've seen silly looking Sibelius charts in groups where they look like they are done by monkeys or something. I look at it, and go "in Finale, I could knock it down to 2 pages and it would look better".

But, either tool, in the hands of someone who knows how to use it, can produce excellent results.

Richard Smith wrote:
I'm sorry if it seemed so, but I did not intend to "bemoan" Finale's "lack of consistency". I simply pointed out, without agreeing, that Lilypond claims a more human engraved look based on slight irregularities that are programed into the software. I don't use Lilypond. I just happened to know of their emphasis and thought it pertinent to the discussion.

My Sibelius comment was simply that I like the printed look I achieve with Sibelius more than Finale's. Much of the Finale work that I see as a performer is not very skillfully done. Clearly careful workers can achieve much better results. Either app, in the hands of a good engraver, can produce superior results.

Richard Smith
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