At 10:30 PM +0100 1/2/10, SN jef chippewa wrote:
anyone have the sequenza handy and can cross-ref?

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ok, i thought that there was a salzedo-sanctioned notaton for this.

the composer has said to block the pedal at natural(^) or natural(v), but if i understood chris right, these would produce two different pitches, either b or nat but never sharp? this means that there is a "breaking point" in the gliss where it shifts to the upper or lower note, correct?

Stop and think for a moment about how a harp operate. The pedals operate 2 sets of fretting stops (and I'm sure there's a technical term for them) that either do or do not fret the strings at the natural and sharp levels. The "buzz" you're after is the string vibrating against that stop when it isn't firmly in either position. Therefore I see no way that you could have all 3 string pitches at once. You could have Bb/B natural or you could have B natural/B#. But it isn't as simple as producing two different pitches, because neither pitch would be clean and obvious, since they're both produced by the same string. But yes, it would be a combined sound along with the buzz.

i am thinking -- in fact proposing -- that using a 1/4 sharp or 1/4 flat (maybe plus the Z-buzz symbol) would make sense as the standard notation that should be used for this.

There are no quarter-steps possible on a harp, at least without hand-fretting a single string, and I don't know whether that's even possible. The basic mechanics don't allow it. So harpists are not only not used to seeing such notation, I doubt that they'd know how to interpret it.

The question seems to be which effect is more important to you: the buzz of the string against the frets, or sounding 2 pitches at once? For the latter, it would be more normal to use 2 adjacent strings.

Are there no harpists on this list?  There are at least 2 on the SibeliusList.

John


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