At 9:57 PM +0100 7/1/11, Steve Parker wrote:
>On 1 Jul 2011, at 02:52, Horace Brock wrote:
>
>>  One guy in our band uses one that he bought himself, but
>>  the others play BBb tubas even if they're playing the Eb part. In the
>>  same way, people in the USA playing the baritone parts don't play
>>  baritones. They play euphoniums. In the UK, they're more traditional.
>
>It's no more 'traditional' than to say that in the UK we're 
>traditional because we don't substitute violas for cellos in our 
>orchestras!
>Baritone parts on Euphonium just breaks the writing.
>
>Steve P.

I'm afraid I don't quite follow.  But in the U.S. you will most often 
find a mixture of baritones and euphoniums, with no differentiation 
between them.  And no differentiation in parts in the music, either. 
Just as you will most often find trumpets playing cornet parts, and 
seldom find Eb tubas.

It's true (from my limited observation) that more people seem to be 
buying true euphoniums than true baritones these days, but in our 
community band we've had a real mixture including, at times, a 
genuine doubled-belled one (which I assume is a sort of combined 
euphonium and Bb tenor horn).  And one of our current players favors 
a "Flugelbone," and I'm not sure what it actually is acoustically.

I just checked in the latest Woodwind & Brasswind catalog (my 
reference for current trends in band instruments), and sure enough, 
the section is labeled "Euphoniums," and the majority of instruments 
illustrated are called euphoniums, but about a half dozen are labeled 
baritones, some bell-front and some upright, and all with smaller 
bores, smaller bells, and only a few with 4 valves.

I don't quite see what that has to do with violas and cellos, though, 
since they play in two different octaves.

John


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