Ugh... 'there are..'

On 21 Apr 2012, at 18:38, Steve Parker <st...@pinkrat.co.uk> wrote:

> If we're talking scales then there is 
> 
> 1. Natural - in G minor Bb and Eb
> I really don't think this is the same as Bb major unless superficially the 
> drawing of two flats on the stave. 
> 
> 2. Melodic minor - Bb E and F# ascending but F Eb and Bb descending
> 
> 3. Harmonic minor - Bb Eb and F#
> 
> People use accidentals on the natural minor key signature because the notes 
> *are* accidentals.
> No piece is written in any of these as a mode. 
> 
> Bartok used just an Eb and also the Bb F# combination as key signatures. 
> 
> Non-standard key sigs are pretty dated. 
> Modern composers will either use standard or null. 
> 
> This seems like a complaint about something Finale actually treats like a 
> musician would. 
> 
> Steve P. 
> 
> On 21 Apr 2012, at 17:13, bill sinclair <billsi...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> What you say is true, BUT
>> There are three different patterns.
>> 1) Natural minor is 2 flats, on B and E. That's
>> identical to the Bb major key. (standard)
>> 2( Melodic minor is 1 flat on E.
>> 3) Harmonic minor if one flat (E) and one sharp (F).
>> Practically all orchestraters or composers would just use the natural minor, 
>> and put accidentals where appropriate.
>> 
>> In the last 20 years I have not seen a non-standard key signature like we
>> are talking about here. Modern classical composers are more likely to do 
>> that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bill sinclair
>> billsi...@aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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