Darcy, they claim that expressions in 2012c now chase correctly if you start 
playback from the middle of the piece. Have you tested that to see if it fixed 
now or not? My simple tests all worked, but maybe you spank it harder than I do.

Christopher

----- Original Message -----
From: Darcy James Argue <djar...@mac.com>
Date: Monday, October 1, 2012 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Finale] Transposition Exp.
To: finale@shsu.edu

> Hi Robert,
> 
> Do you generally work with concert pitch scores? I seemed to 
> recall you normally work with transposed scores. In transposed 
> scores, you'll only ever see the octave-displaced clefs if you 
> have "Display in Concert Pitch" temporarily turned on (for, 
> e.g., note entry). But they don't show up in the printed score 
> or parts.
> 
> I'm wary of your expression-based solution because I find, when 
> playing back from the middle of the score, expressions that come 
> before the playback point are not reliably caught by Finale.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - DJA
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> 
> 
> 
> On 1 Oct 2012, at 9:41 AM, Robert Patterson 
> <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> 
> > Octave displaced clefs is certainly one way to do it. I find 
> them to be
> > overly fussy and potentially not as clear as regular clefs. 
> One could
> > change the glyph for the octave displaced clefs (and I have 
> tried this),
> > but then you can't tell the octave-displaced from the regular, 
> so you could
> > potentially have errors that cost time figuring out.
> > 
> > Another approach I have not tried is applying score-only staff 
> styles to
> > the instruments that I want to show in sounding pitch. It 
> seems like it
> > might work.
> > 
> > But really, the transposing expression works beautifully. You 
> can put them
> > into the instrument change names. Then if you hear an 
> instrument playing
> > back in the wrong octave, you know you have forgotten the 
> expression to the
> > player for changing axes.
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Steve Parker 
> <st...@pinkrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> >> Maybe I'm misunderstanding but if I make a concert score 
> (never by
> >> choice..) I make liberal use of octave displaced clefs.
> >> 
> >> Steve P.
> >> 
> >> On 1 Oct 2012, at 04:50, Robert Patterson 
> <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I am writing a contrabassoon part in a C score. The way I 
> usually handle
> >> C
> >>> scores is that I label each transposing instrument "sounding 
> as written",
> >>> but I do not so label octave transposing instruments. That 
> allows me to
> >> not
> >>> be fussy about them.
> >>> 
> >>> But it puts me in a quandary for correct playback, and I had 
> thought>>> transposing expression would work. But I am finding 
> (at least sometimes)
> >>> they don't transpose. Specifically, I have a bassoon/contra 
> doubling>> part.
> >>> When the contra part starts I put a hidden "T-12" 
> transposing expression
> >> in
> >>> the score. It was actually working, but then it stopped, and 
> I have no
> >> idea
> >>> what changed. I certainly did not change anything on purpose.
> >>> 
> >>> Does anyone know why a transposing exp. might not transpose? Oddly
> >> enough,
> >>> my piccolo expressions are transposing. Go figure. The 
> options in the
> >>> assignment dialogs for both contra and piccolo exps look the 
> same to me.
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