Hi Robert, Perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me? But I definitely had a solution in earlier versions that did not involve expressions. I'll have to go back to an old file and see what I did!
Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > Darcy, > > I don't know of a way better than using an expression. That is, hiding the > clef change in the part with a staff style and putting an expression in its > place. (Once you get to a barline you can of course use a staff style for > the clef.) I do this all the time, and it doesn't see particularly more > onerous than any of the other hoops we jump through for linked parts. > > The part of this that surprises me is your statement that transposition > styles could be applied to partial measures before Fin12, because that was > never my experience. > > Robert > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@icloud.com>wrote: > >> Hi Jan, >> >> Playback is not the issue. I need a 8vb treble clef to appear in the score >> and a regular treble clef to appear in the part, for a partial measure. >> >> This is standard recommended practice for treating octave-transposing >> instruments in a concert pitch score. >> >> The passages in question do need to be in treble clef, but regardless, it >> would be the exact same problem in tenor clef. (Of course, I'd have to >> create the 8vb tenor clef as a custom clef but that is not the problem >> here.) >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> ----- >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> On Apr 13, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jan Angermüller <j...@angermueller.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Darcy, >>> >>> use a mid-measure clef and then assign >>> a playback expression to the first note in the new clef >>> that sets transposition to whatever you need (0, -12, 12). >>> Repeat the same when switching back to bass clef. >>> >>> But do you really need to change the transposition ? >>> In standard contrabass notation the treble clef >>> is also read as 8vb, just like the bass clef. >>> So if you assign a standard bass clef (without 8vb) >>> and a standard treble clef (without 8vb) and set the >>> transposition settings in score manager to "Down octave". >>> Everything should be clear for the bass player and >>> you don't need any manual transposition changes. >>> >>> Using an 8vb bass clef and a treble clef without 8vb, >>> but that playsback as 8vb, seems inconsistent to me >>> and also not clear for the bass player. >>> >>> And last but not least, treble clefs rarely appear in >>> contrabass notation. Usually the tenor clef is used >>> for high notes. Only the highest flageoletts or >>> Bottesini style arpeggios are usually written in treble clef. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> Am 13.04.2014 08:08, schrieb Darcy James Argue: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm working with a score in concert pitch, where the contrabasses are >> notated with the 8vb bass clef in the score, but a regular bass clef (as >> usual) in the part. This is all fine and well and easy to set up in the >> Score Manger (with a transposition and Set To Clef). >>>> >>>> The problem arises when you need to change clefs to an 8vb treble clef >> in the score, showing as a regular treble clef in the part, and this clef >> change occurs mid-measure. In Finale 2011 in older, you could simply apply >> a staff style with the same transposition but Set To Clef assigned to >> treble clef -- but Fin2012 and 2014 won't allow you to apply a transposing >> staff style to a partial measure. >>>> >>>> Given that, what is the best workaround? There is one I can think of >> involving clefs as expressions but I'd prefer to avoid going down that >> rabbit hole if I can avoid it. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> - DJA >>>> ----- >>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
