Paul Bryan ( a J. Wanhal specialist and a former Duke University brass
professor, thinks all the high horn references that H.C. Robbins Landon
claimed for Haydn and Mozart, isn't true. Paul Bryan has written a
monograph on that subject.

Good luck,
Kim

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Lawrence <yateslawre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As Jiminy Cricket almost said, "Always let your context be your guide"
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 28 Jan 2015, at 10:41 pm, Robert Patterson <
> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would add to this that in the case of Mozart and Haydn, unless it says
> Bb
> > basso it is Bb-alto. (In the 19th century the reverse is true.) I also
> > think that Horn C-alto becomes more common as you move earlier in the
> 18th
> > century. So London Haydn Horn in C is basso but Esterhazy Haydn Horn in C
> > is (or at least may be) C alto. If it isn't clearly marked, an analysis
> of
> > the voicing of the horns with the other instruments is probably
> necessary.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Kenneth Moore <k...@mooremusic.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> On 28/01/2015 11:04:25 , Martin Banner wrote:
> >>> I am currently preparing a modern performing edition of an 18th Century
> >>> Italian sacred work for chorus, strings, oboes and two horns.
> >>> All you horn specialists (and I know there are some of you out there
> who
> >>> have been of great help to me in the past), please weigh in on this
> >> and help
> >>> me figure this out.
> >>
> >> There is a good article at
> >> http://www.compositiontoday.com/articles/natural_horn.asp, from which I
> >> quote:
> >>
> >>  * Horn in C alto—reads concert pitch (like a C trumpet)—very bright
> sound
> >>  * Horn in B—not used
> >>  * Horn in B-flat alto—concert pitch sounds down a whole step from the
> >>    notated pitch
> >>  * Horn in A—sounds down a minor third—bright but more centered
> >>  * Horn in A-flat—rare
> >>  * Horn in G-sounds down a perfect fourth
> >>  * Horn in F-sharp—rare
> >>  * Horn in F—notated just like the modern horn
> >>  * Horn in E—sounds down a minor sixth
> >>  * Horn in E-flat—sounds down a major sixth—full, rich tone color
> >>  * Horn in D—sounds down a minor seventh
> >>  * Horn in D-flat—rare
> >>  * Horn in C basso—sounds down an octave from notated pitch—dark tone
> >>  * Horn in B—rare
> >>  * Horn in B-flat basso—sounds down a major ninth-- very dark, almost
> >>    muffled sound
> >>  * Horn in A basso-- rare
> >>
> >> I have never met Horn in C alto and would always assume that "Horn in C"
> >> meant basso unless there was some evidence to the contrary. Horns in Bb
> >> basso occur in Mozart, Brahms, and R Strauss.  I have only ever met A
> >> and Ab basso in Italian music (Verdi Requiem). Again I would interpret
> >> "Horn in A" or "Horn in Ab" as alto in music of any other nationality.
> >>
> >> Ken Moore
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