With the DevTools, can I do without such folders as Documentation, Extras and Examples? These folders don't seem to have anything to do with compiling for making packages.
Begin forwarded message: > >> Okay, let me get this straight: > > You're trying to install Unix software. in order to do so, you need to > boostrap a reasonably complete Unix enviromnent. Yes, OSX comes with > some > of that out of the box, but you're trying to go much further here. > > In order to do any kind of software development (and yes building > software > from source counts) then you need the DevTools kit. Yes this is big, but > it's also extremely useful. Not only is it necessary to do all this Unix > stuff, but I've even hear reports of people using it to make > Mac-ware! :) > > In order to display X11 software such as Ethereal, then yes you need to > have X11 up and running. Yes this is asking a lot, and yes it would be > nice if you could just run some of it in Aqua instead, but at this point > that's just not the case. You're trying to run software from a non-Aqua > environment, and you need to install the support software to make this > work. This really isn't much different from having to run Classic if you > want to run OS9 software, and is done for similar reasons. > > Is it worth it? Well, that's up to you. If all you're going to use is > Ethereal, then yes you've just taken on a lot of overhead to support one > application. On the other hand, if you're going to be running lots of > Unix > and X-Windows applications -- Gnome stuff, Mozilla, Gimp, 1001 utilities > from Linux, etc -- then you now have the framework needed to run all of > that stuff. > > I don't suppose you could have made do with Network Utility.app? Both it > and Ethereal seem to be GUI wrappers around command line tools. If you > don't want to take on all the GUI overhead, then maybe you should start > getting comfortable with 'tcpdump', 'ifconfig', 'netstat', etc. You > don't > get the pretty/easy graphics, but you also have much less overhead. > > > > > -- > Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apache / mod_perl / http://homepage.mac.com/chdevers/resume/ > > ----- A POUND OF EZRA AND OTHER UNITS OF GOTHIC MEASURE by Gregory R. Hyde. ISBN 1-886988-11-X The title story is a brilliant, imaginative piece of Grand Guignol science fiction horror, bringing alive the resurrected words of Ezra Pound. Hyde more than fulfils Pound's injunction to "Make it new." He makes a whole new world in space and time. --The Denver Post Greg Hyde's fiction is bold, graphic and disturbing. No one would make the mistake of calling his stories "light reading." They are dark, thoughtful and thought provoking. If Thomas Tessier is the master of the supernatural grotesque, Greg Hyde is his apprentice...and the master better watch out. --Mark Graham, Denver Rocky Mountain News Book Reviewer The off-kilter, surreal paths of this collection lead to fresh discoveries of emotional depth and feeling. Within the bleak, modern-gothic tone of these tales lies a warm heart of compassion. --Talebones Magazine Four Honorable Mentions in the upcoming Years Best Fantasy and Horror anthology by St. Martins Press. http://www.cyberpsychos.netonecom.net/cpbooks/ezra/ Now Accepting PayPal. _______________________________________________ Fink-beginners mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-beginners
