At 10:57 Uhr -0500 21.02.2002, kefkathepoor wrote:
>>>I recently installed fink via CVS and attempted to upgrade my 
>>>recently dselect installed packages. Fink attempts to contact 
>>>www.freedesktop.org to attain a copy of pckmanager I think it is, 
>>>I don't recall the package off the top of my head but that is the 
>>>address used. It fails to contact constantly. I have tried for 
>>>three days now. Anybody else having trouble with this address?
>>
>>Dude, that is very lame. If you want help, you should at least 
>>spend the minimal effort of looking for the exact package that 
>>gives you problems; then you should tell us the *exact* URL that 
>>fails. And finally you should tell us the Fink version you use 
>>("fink --version").
>>
>>"Copy & Paste", ever heard that? Makes it very easy to copy this 
>>information from a terminal.
>
>I found the package separately off of another site myself.
>
>Did I ask for help? No.

You didn't use the word, correct, but you still asked for advice. "To 
give somebody an advice" is a form of "to help somebody".

Yes, I think you asked for help.


>Did I say the package was giving me problems? Again ... no. I asked 
>if anybody else was having trouble contacting the site and the whole 
>url was not an issue as it is the entire site itself that is down. 
>No ftp or http access - period.

You asked for advice. You did post a very vague question, saying "I 
don't recall the package off the top of my head but that is the 
address used.". IMHO this is rude beheaviour. It means that you are 
not willig to spend 5 minutes to find out & tell us the exact 
circumstances of your problem, yet you still expect others to spend 
time to help you.

Recommended reading: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


>I said recently installed fink via CVS to any person with some 
>semblance of intelligence that means the most recent version 
>available.

It tells us only that at some point you used CVS. That could very 
well be 3 months ago, or ten minutes. So basically tells exactly 
nothing.


>Do you want the fink version or the fink command version? Aha! I'm 
>not the only one who isn't always specific.

If you want to be a nitpicker, then first check what you say. Then 
you would have discovered that "fink --version" prints out the distro 
version *and* the package manager version.


>As for expending minimal effort I asked a simple question about an 
>unreachable address and I had to sit through half an hour of 
>downloads at T1 speed to even get to the failed install and I was 
>not interested in doing that again after doing it four or five times 
>in a row. I haven't always had this superfast connection and the 
>downloads probably would have taken nearly a day on a modem.

I can understand that, but that opens a whole new issue. If you 
install stuff with fink, then it normally only downloads once and 
saves the result. If you have to redownload the stuff over and over 
again, something is obviously wrong with your setup.


>Thanks for nothing, max and thanks for being rude in the process.

You reap what you sow. It's not personal, just tit-for-tat.



Max
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